Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions

[Kabrams1618]

If you fly tel aviv to eilat, can you walk to the north beach from the airport or do you land outside the city?

[Yaalili]

If you fly tel aviv to eilat, can you walk to the north beach from the airport or do you land outside the city?

ETH airport is about a 25 minute walk from the Hotels zone.

[Baglach]

Air Europa is adding TLV-Casablanca
https://passportnews.co.il/אייר-אירופה-מתרחבת-פותחת-קווים-לקזבלנ/

[Yaalili]

Air Europa is adding TLV-Casablanca
https://passportnews.co.il/אייר-אירופה-מתרחבת-פותחת-קווים-לקזבלנ/

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They are adding MAD-CMN:

UX1113 MAD 23: 25-00: 15 CMN 1--4567
UX1112 CMN 02: 15-04: 50 MAD 12--567

[yochai]

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They are adding MAD-CMN:

UX1113 MAD 23: 25-00: 15 CMN 1--4567
UX1112 CMN 02: 15-04: 50 MAD 12--567

True. IINM Israel and Morocco don’t have any official diplomatic relations.

[ExGingi]

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/72749-israels-arkia-adds-first-a321neolr

Arkia takes delivery of its first A321neo LR. Hopes to start service to Goa, India.

According to Hebrew news sources they are also hoping to start service to NY when they take delivery of their A330-900 in about 2 years. 

[zow]

Is this plan too crazy? Would it even work, given Immigration and Security? Are there better ideas?

The “problem”: we have 0500 departure on IB TLV-MAD, and we have bags to check.  We would like to get to the airport the preceding evening and spend the time in Schmoozy Bar and Dan Lounge.

The proposed solution:
1. Online check-in (should be available 24h before flight)
2. Store luggage at TLV land-side (e.g., http://www.adonlocker.co.il/airport_lockers)
3. Clear security with carry-ons only.
4. Clear Immigration
5.  Enjoy Bar and lounge for ~6 hours.
6. Around 0200, exit sterile zone (will I even be allowed?)
7.  Retrieve bags from locker.
8. Check bags and clear security and immigration again).
9.   Enjoy the lounge for a few more hours. 
10. Depart 0500

I worry that the clearing immigration thing is going to be the problem....

[Ergel]

Why in the world would you want to do that? 9 hours in the airport sounds like a nightmare. Why not get a few hours of sleep and show up to the airport at 3 AM?

[davidrotts63]

Is this plan too crazy? Would it even work, given Immigration and Security? Are there better ideas?

The “problem”: we have 0500 departure on IB TLV-MAD, and we have bags to check.  We would like to get to the airport the preceding evening and spend the time in Schmoozy Bar and Dan Lounge.

The proposed solution:
1. Online check-in (should be available 24h before flight)
2. Store luggage at TLV land-side (e.g., http://www.adonlocker.co.il/airport_lockers)
3. Clear security with carry-ons only.
4. Clear Immigration
5.  Enjoy Bar and lounge for ~6 hours.
6. Around 0200, exit sterile zone (will I even be allowed?)
7.  Retrieve bags from locker.
8. Check bags and clear security and immigration again).
9.   Enjoy the lounge for a few more hours. 
10. Depart 0500

I worry that the clearing immigration thing is going to be the problem....

I intend to fly that flight soon as well, ideally I'd like to arrive around 1 am, it's much easier to travel to the airport late at night.
I'd love to hear back if you do try this...

[travel agent]

you cant exit airside without a real reason, missed flight etc.

[zow]

Why in the world would you want to do that? 9 hours in the airport sounds like a nightmare. Why not get a few hours of sleep and show up to the airport at 3 AM?

First, I will need to drop rental car, so would want to arrive at airport at 2:00am, means leaving Jlem 1:30 or so. Hard to get much sleep before then, not to mention it means taking an extra night in hotel or AirBnB.

I intend to fly that flight soon as well, ideally I'd like to arrive around 1 am, it's much easier to travel to the airport late at night.
I'd love to hear back if you do try this...

Probably won’t try it, because, as I suspected...

you cant exit airside without a real reason, missed flight etc.

Thanks everyone. 

[ExGingi]

First, I will need to drop rental car, so would want to arrive at airport at 2:00am, means leaving Jlem 1:30 or so. Hard to get much sleep before then, not to mention it means taking an extra night in hotel or AirBnB.

Probably won’t try it, because, as I suspected...
Thanks everyone.

With so many westbound flights leaving around 5am, I don't know why they don't make some kind of accommodation at LLBG so that it doesn't turn into an extra wasted night.

[jose34]

I intend to fly that flight soon as well, ideally I'd like to arrive around 1 am, it's much easier to travel to the airport late at night.
I'd love to hear back if you do try this...

+1.
Would love to for someone to try this just to see if it can be done.
How would you leave the sterile area?

Does security care and can they tell if you scan your boarding pass twice?

[zow]

+1.
Would love to for someone to try this just to see if it can be done.
How would you leave the sterile area?

Does security care and can they tell if you scan your boarding pass twice?

+1
I won’t try it myself, because I really would need to get out (to grab and check my luggage) and back in.  It would be great if someone with carry-on luggage only would try it, because if they get denied exit, there is no property loss for them.

[theyankel]

so, considering that ly 002 thursday night with all the noise was a 747, should i be concerned that  i am booked on ly 002 at of jan on what is supposed to be 787-9? is it because ly didnt take delivery of this particular 787 yet or its just not scheduled  for this route yet? i only booked ly because i wanted to try the new lie flat in j and this would be a major disappointment if there is an aircraft change
any feedback from experts here would be most appreciated

[mijo]

UA were showing off the new Premium Economy seat at the WTM show in London.
Meal: "will be a full tray"
Tray table has a tablet holder
Aisle seat's armrest lowers totally allowing you to slide out even if you still have your tray down
More comfortable than the current Economy+ seat for sure

[PlatinumGuy]

United ex LHR switched from Hermolis to Stogel. Hermolis is trying to get it back.

[Yaalili]

United ex LHR switched from Hermolis to Stogel. Hermolis is trying to get it back.

Wrong thread for that.

Hermolis to Stogel.. those are opposites. Even AA serves Hermolis ex-UK and United usually copies them.

[shimino1]

United ex LHR switched from Hermolis to Stogel. Hermolis is trying to get it back.

Source? That would be terrible!!!

[travel agent]

air transat cancelled their route to TLV