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Montreal Air Canada (from May to Jan.), Air Transat (summer only)
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Many travelers from Canada connect via Europe popular airlines for connecting with good fares and convenient times include Turkish Airlines, British Airways, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, and Swiss.

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Beijing El Al, Hainan Airlines
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France
Paris Air France, Arkia, ASL (begins summer 2018), easyJet, El Al, Transavia, XL Airways France
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Bordeaux easyJet (from spring 2018)
Marseille El Al
Nice Air France (seasonal), Israir, easyJet (from spring 2018)

Germany
Baden-Baden Ryanair
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Munich Arkia, El Al, Lufthansa
Nuremberg Germania
Stuttgart Arkia (seasonal), Israir (seasonal)

Greece
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Seasonal and charter flights are available from many of the Greek Islands

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Mumbai El Al
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Poland
Gdansk LOT, Ryanair
Katowice Wizz Air
Krakow Ryanair, Sun DOr (El Al)
Lublin -LOT
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ROMANIA
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Cluj BlueAir, WizzAir
Craiova WizzAir
Iasi Tarom, WizzAir
Timisoara WizzAir

Slovakia
Bratislava Smartwings (seasonally)

South Africa
Johannesburg El Al
Many travelers from South Africa fly via Addis Ababa with Ethiopian Airlines

Spain
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Tenerife-South Smartwings (seasonally)

Sweden
Stockholm Norwegian Air Shuttle

Switzerland
Geneva easyJet, El Al
Basel easyJet
Zurich El Al, Swiss

Thailand
Bangkok Arkia (begins July 2018), El Al

Turkey
Istanbul Atlas Global, Pegasus, Turkish Airlines

United Kingdom

London British Airways (Heathrow), easyJet (Luton and Gatwick), El Al (Luton and Heathrow), WizzAir (Luton)
Manchester easyJet, Sun DOR (seasonal)

USA
Boston El Al
Los Angeles El Al
Miami El Al
New York City Delta (JFK), El Al (JFK and Newark), United (Newark)
San Francisco United Airlines, El Al (begins May 2019)
Las Vegas - El Al

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1620 on: March 19, 2019, 01:42:55 AM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jordanian-mp-salutes-palestinian-terrorist-for-killing-the-jews/

This article is relevant in a few ways. It's possibly a lot worse than Erdogan's tweets/public statements, yet I don't hear complaints about the unfair advantage of RJ over LY. And in a similar way, these are mostly rhetorical shows, because as terrible as they are, there's no practical meaning (though they are quite inciteful, and we've seen Jordanian violence against Jews, including from a uniformed member of the Jordanian army - something you don't see in Turkey).

And on another note, how likely do you think the officials mentioned at the end of the article were likely to fly RJ, rather than travel over land? (Though Helicopter is probably most likely).

Pretty sure the Jordanian flights (based off my conversation with the HFA) is based on the cargo and not a passenger money making flight. TK is for the passengers. Proof is in the load factors on the RJ vs TK flights.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1621 on: March 19, 2019, 07:13:38 AM »
Pretty sure the Jordanian flights (based off my conversation with the HFA) is based on the cargo and not a passenger money making flight. TK is for the passengers. Proof is in the load factors on the RJ vs TK flights.
Does that make sense at all?

That would be like sending cargo from Mexico to Southern California by air rather than by truck, how often does that happen?
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1622 on: March 19, 2019, 07:33:51 AM »
Pretty sure the Jordanian flights (based off my conversation with the HFA) is based on the cargo and not a passenger money making flight. TK is for the passengers. Proof is in the load factors on the RJ vs TK flights.
IIRC When LH downgraded from their 747s to A32S they had to start sending a cargo aircraft once a week

Plus for TK -
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvEQTTEhg8y/

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1623 on: March 19, 2019, 12:41:01 PM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jordanian-mp-salutes-palestinian-terrorist-for-killing-the-jews/

This article is relevant in a few ways. It's possibly a lot worse than Erdogan's tweets/public statements, yet I don't hear complaints about the unfair advantage of RJ over LY. And in a similar way, these are mostly rhetorical shows, because as terrible as they are, there's no practical meaning (though they are quite inciteful, and we've seen Jordanian violence against Jews, including from a uniformed member of the Jordanian army - something you don't see in Turkey).

And on another note, how likely do you think the officials mentioned at the end of the article were likely to fly RJ, rather than travel over land? (Though Helicopter is probably most likely).
You seem to be a real lamdan in politics. I'm not gonna waste my time replying to all the ridiculous sickening comments above, but I'll just say this. Turkish PM (who just this week called Israel a "terrorist state") is a rabid anti-semite. Period. He funds terrorism against innocent Israelis. No need to water that down.
Nobody is forcing you to fly El Al (after all, it's not the style if you're on DDF) or to waive the Israeli flag. If you want to fly with the Turks, feel free. But let's not get carried away with what an amazing airline and country it is, and it's all just a show (interesting that no US airline flies there either - though I don't know if that's due to security concerns or not).
(I know someone who recently asked one of the leading gedolim in EY if it's ok to fly TK, to which the reply was "perhaps you should make Turkish citizenship, also?")
In any case, maybe open an "analysis of Middle East politics" thread in the board of worthless discussions (JS), so that we can keep these threads for interesting updates in the air travel industry. (I specifically follow this thread for interesting updates regarding the field I work in. It's annoying every time I open this to see more ridiculous analysis of the politics here [from an outsider])
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1624 on: March 19, 2019, 12:51:31 PM »
You seem to be a real lamdan in politics. I'm not gonna waste my time replying to all the ridiculous comments above, but I'll just say this. Turkish PM (who just this week called Israel a "terrorist state") is a rabid anti-semite. Period. He funds terrorism against innocent Israelis. No need to water that down.
Nobody is forcing you to fly El Al (after all, it's not the style if you're on DDF) or to waive the Israeli flag. If you want to fly with the Turks, feel free. But let's not get carried away with what an amazing airline and country it is, and it's all just a show (interesting that no US airline flies there either - though I don't know if that's due to security concerns or not).
(I know someone who recently asked one of the leading gedolim in EY if it's ok to fly TK, to which the reply was "perhaps you should make Turkish citizenship, also?")
In any case, maybe open an "analysis of Middle East politics" thread in the board of worthless discussions (JS), so that we can keep these threads for interesting updates in the air travel industry. (I specifically follow this thread for interesting updates regarding the field I work in. It's annoying every time I open this to see more ridiculous analysis of the politics here [from an outsider])
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I fully agree with you that this discussion doesn't belong here. All I did was report a new EX-TLV route and "someone" brought LY into the conversation, with inaccurate claims, which I disputed, without even talking much about LY.

It is a well established DDF tradition to go off onto side discussions until the mods eventually prune it into its own thread, which I think they should.

Whether Erdoğan (BTW, he's Turkish President, not PM, at this point, but it really doesn't matter) is an antisemite or not, is irrelevant. He definitely does help Hamas, as does Qatar, with the blessing and approval of the Israeli government! And the response about Turkish citizenship... Well, what kind of a response is that? Every Jew should have as many passports as he can legally have (as long as none of them force him into some army service or the likes).

FTR, I have friends and family that count TLV as their home airport (some of them occasionally travel to IST on business, importing from Turkey to Israel), as well as friends and family that count IST as their home airport, which probably influences my interest in both.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1625 on: March 20, 2019, 11:05:28 AM »
W6 starting in Sep. KRK - TLV, 4 weekly

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1628 on: May 03, 2019, 01:17:19 AM »
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2019/05/02/american-airlines-looking-to-fly-to-tel-aviv-may-bring-back-boston-london

Confirming Jonnyc's tweet.

Correct me if I am wrong but NYC has 7 flights a day to Israel, based on a little research that is the 3rd largest international city (London and Paris have more) with direct flights from NYC.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1629 on: May 03, 2019, 01:35:40 AM »
Correct me if I am wrong but NYC has 7 flights a day to Israel, based on a little research that is the 3rd largest international city (London and Paris have more) with direct flights from NYC.

NYC-FRA has 7 flights as does NYC-FCO.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1630 on: May 03, 2019, 02:00:11 AM »
NYC-FRA has 7 flights as does NYC-FCO.
NYC-FRA I count 6 (I checked May 18-19-20) 3 LH 1 SQ/DL/UA
NYC-FCO has Norwegian....I was not counting LC airlines.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1631 on: May 03, 2019, 11:58:54 AM »
NYC-FRA I count 6 (I checked May 18-19-20) 3 LH 1 SQ/DL/UA

My bad, I was looking at May 3 and saw LH8161. Given the equipment used, I'm guessing this is a cargo flight. Not aware of any airline currently flying MD-11 for passenger service.
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« Reply #1632 on: May 03, 2019, 12:02:29 PM »
Correct me if I am wrong but NYC has 7 flights a day to Israel, based on a little research that is the 3rd largest international city (London and Paris have more) with direct flights from NYC.

Though a more accurate comparison would be comparing flights to a destination on a per capita served by that airport.

Also, YYZ (and possibly YUL) probably have more flights from NYC, but I can see why you wouldn't count that as international.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1633 on: May 03, 2019, 12:07:08 PM »
Correct me if I am wrong but NYC has 7 flights a day to Israel, based on a little research that is the 3rd largest international city (London and Paris have more) with direct flights from NYC.
Actually it peaks at 10:
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=/m/02_286.TLV.2019-06-24;c:USD;e:1;s:0;sd:1;t:f;tt:o
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1634 on: May 19, 2019, 07:41:20 AM »
Looking for Airlines that fly big planes or planes with screens to Europe in the summer.
Anywhere I can find a list, can matrix specify for me?