Author Topic: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions (Read 638449 times)

chaim0m · « **Reply #1760 on:** July 27, 2019, 03:29:17 PM »

Finally tap portugal has started flying the a321lr on tlv route!

shimino1 · « **Reply #1761 on:** July 27, 2019, 05:51:47 PM »

Quote from: chaim0m on July 27, 2019, 03:29:17 PM

Finally tap portugal has started flying the a321lr on tlv route!

Beautiful.
Unbelievable value for TLV-North America using A3 miles.

mmgfarb · « **Reply #1762 on:** July 27, 2019, 06:00:49 PM »

Quote from: chaim0m on July 27, 2019, 03:29:17 PM

Finally tap portugal has started flying the a321lr on tlv route!

Finally!

mmgfarb · « **Reply #1763 on:** July 27, 2019, 06:01:22 PM »

Quote from: shimino1 on July 27, 2019, 05:51:47 PM

Beautiful.
Unbelievable value for TLV-North America using A3 miles.

It's a great value no matter what you use to book because you get a good J product on both legs.

yandmk · « **Reply #1764 on:** July 27, 2019, 09:00:36 PM »

Not sure if this belongs here, in the El Al thread or one of its own...
In recent weeks, planes into TLV have been flying a new path in Israel in which they fly over Modiin/Modiin Illit and some PA territory at low altitude upon landing. It seems to be switching back and forth on different days of the week, hours of the day etc. (IINM it's based on which runway they are using for landing. TLV has 3(?) runways in a triangle shape and that can cause significant changes in path when switching runways)
https://www.kikar.co.il/324642.html
https://www.kikar.co.il/324903.html

After last week Shabbos, there seems to have been an outcry from residents who claimed they saw El Al planes flying overhead on Shabbos. El Al's CEO responded denying any flights on Shabbos and claiming the reported flights may be a confusion with codeshare flights with other airlines.
https://www.jdn.co.il/breakingnews/1176019/

This week Shabbos, I was in Modiin Illit, and it was quite a thrill to sit on the porch Shabbos afternoon plane spotting with the kids (unlike in Boro Park where we have no clue from where all those planes headed to LGA are coming from - knowing a lot about flights into TLV makes it that much more interesting. Like seeing UA from SFO and AC from YYZ [10am] etc.) Anyhow, sure enough, between 6:45pm and 7:20pm I personally watched 4 El Al marked planes with the regular El Al livery flying overhead.
I'm very well aware that El Al doesn't have any scheduled flights on Shabbos. Just curious if anyone knows more info on what these can be. Are they "ferry flights" being flown empty to TLV to operate M"S flights (which would be a serious halacha concern for a frum passenger flying M"S CMIIW)? Or does El Al lease aircraft to other airlines over the weekend? The JDN article assumes they may be flying as Sun D'or, but to the best of my knowledge, Sun D'or does not operate that many flights that would have 4 flights landing in such a short period of time.
Would love to hear if anyone knows more about what these LY aircraft flying Shabbos are all about.

yandmk · « **Reply #1765 on:** July 27, 2019, 09:19:15 PM »

Doesn't answer the mystery, though...

shapsam · « **Reply #1766 on:** July 27, 2019, 09:38:10 PM »

Were you able to see the type of aircraft?

yandmk · « **Reply #1767 on:** July 27, 2019, 09:45:06 PM »

Quote from: shapsam on July 27, 2019, 09:38:10 PM

Were you able to see the type of aircraft?

The first 3 were narrow-body (737). Quite sure the 4th was wide-body (either 767 or 777)

yandmk · « **Reply #1768 on:** July 27, 2019, 10:08:57 PM »

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/tlv/arrivals
Doesn't seem like they're scheduled flights leased by other airlines, because there's barely any Boeing aircraft arrivals in that time period. Does Sun D'or show up here usually? What about ferry flights?

KSMH · « **Reply #1769 on:** July 27, 2019, 11:45:06 PM »

El Al is not know for telling the the truth all time.

1356Abe · « **Reply #1770 on:** July 28, 2019, 02:55:44 AM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 27, 2019, 09:00:36 PM

I'm very well aware that El Al doesn't have any scheduled flights on Shabbos. Just curious if anyone knows more info on what these can be. Are they "ferry flights" being flown empty to TLV to operate M"S flights (which would be a serious halacha concern for a frum passenger flying M"S CMIIW)?

It is known that elal is not a homer shabbos. They may not have flights scheduled to operate on shabbos but everything and anything else they do does operate on shabbos. There are a handful of people that don't fly elal for this reason alone.

Baglach · « **Reply #1771 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:31:28 AM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 27, 2019, 09:45:06 PM

The first 3 were narrow-body (737). Quite sure the 4th was wide-body (either 767 or 777)

Elal has no more 767 in their fleet

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #1772 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:05:48 AM »

Quote from: Baglach on July 28, 2019, 03:31:28 AM

Elal has no more 767 in their fleet

Weird, considering they had one delivered as recent as 2015, yet they still operate 747s delivered in the 90s

a mirrer · « **Reply #1773 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:50:27 AM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 27, 2019, 09:45:06 PM

The first 3 were narrow-body (737). Quite sure the 4th was wide-body (either 767 or 777)

could the wide-body have been the 747 freighter?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ly882

yandmk · « **Reply #1774 on:** July 28, 2019, 05:10:05 AM »

Quote from: a mirrer on July 28, 2019, 04:50:27 AM

could the wide-body have been the 747 freighter?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ly882

Did not have 4 engines

chff · « **Reply #1775 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:57:26 AM »

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1155476546276249601

KSMH · « **Reply #1776 on:** July 28, 2019, 10:24:05 AM »

Hopefully both!
Not like I'm flying AA.

AT has many flights from the East Coast and no US carriers seem to pick up even a single route. AT even has 2 daily from JFK.

AC has a route [to CMN] running for some time.

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #1777 on:** July 28, 2019, 12:26:56 PM »

Quote from: KSMH on July 28, 2019, 10:24:05 AM

Hopefully both!
Not like I'm flying AA.

AT has many flights from the East Coast and no US carriers seem to pick up even a single route. AT even has 2 daily from JFK.

AC has a route [to CMN] running for some time.

It's an interesting route.
Only JFK is daily, and AC flies from YUL, not YYZ.

Dan · « **Reply #1778 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:01:06 PM »

Quote from: chaim0m on July 27, 2019, 03:29:17 PM

Finally tap portugal has started flying the a321lr on tlv route!

When did they start flying this?

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #1779 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:05:15 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 28, 2019, 01:01:06 PM

When did they start flying this?

Terrible marketing if you have to ask

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