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+1 800-525-3663 (5:00 - 18:00 PT) press 1 - 4 - JAL membership number - # - pin - # - 0 (for human or 1 for computer search)

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Hotels                                              Activities                                          Chabad                                                                Additional Info
Viengtai Hotel (Ohr Menachem)
Davis Hotel (Beth Elisheva)
Shangr-La (Even Chen)
Sheraton Resort (Hua Hin)
Riva Surya
Kao Sahn Rd
Night Markets (near stadium)
Shopping Malls
Grand Palace
Kanchanaburi (2 hrs away)
Floating Markets
Beth Elisheva (Financial & Shopping district)
Even Chen
Ohr Menachem (Kao Sahn Rd)
ALWAYS use meter in taxis and
   try to say destination in Thai - if you
   need help with numbers as Cbs ;)
(Free) sim in airport at kiosks -(true move(h- sim), dtac
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Songkran (water fight week)- April 13th!
Kosherthailand.com
BKK Luggage Lockers - 100 baht/day/bag (~$3)
Public Transport
Domestic flights:
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Tailor:
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Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                            Additional Info
Westin
JW Marriott
Sala Resort
Sheraton Krabi
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Ritz Carlton Reserve
places w/ private pools
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Monkey Show
Cable Skiing
Longtail Boats
Island Tour
Koh Phi Phi:
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Maya Bay (full day trip)
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Thai Boxing
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The Conrad
Sunday Resort
Sheraton
Le Meridian
The W
Le Murrya (Near Chabad)
Fx Hotel (Near Chabad)
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Le Meridien (10 min. Walk to Chabad)
Shangri La (2 min. Walk to Chabad)
Mandarin Oriental Dhara Dhevi
Sukantara Cascade Resort
Maese Elephant Show
Maetaeng Elephant Park
Patara Elephant Farm
Thai Elephant Home
Thoms Pai Elephant Camp
Bamboo Rafting
Tiger Kingdom
Monkey Shows
Snake Shows
Crocodile Shows
Zip Lining
Trekking
White Water Rafting
Longneck Tribe
Gun Shooting
Night Safari
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Repelling
Caving,
ATVing
Bungee
Segways
Rent motorbikes (5$ day)
3D museum right down the road from Chabad
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Sunday Market (ratchadamonoen  Rd, old city)
Night Market (Changklan Rd, near Chabad & Le Meridien)
Sat Night Market (Wua Lai)
Tiger Kingdom is best in morning
Use ישראל 669  as travel agent for trips
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Recommended Zip Line: Flight of Gibbon or Flying Squirrel,
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When reserving tours, ask for a discount due to
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Tailors:
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His and Hers- 3 minute walk from LM on the way to chabbad.




Chiang Rai   CEI/4hr drive from CNX

Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                            Additional Info
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Four Seasons Tent Camp Golden Triangle
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Scooters
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #100 on: May 18, 2011, 09:16:16 AM »
So, back to Air Asia.

I can arrive BBK 5:30am Sunday.

Air Asia has a flight at 6:40am. Is that too tight?
Otherwise the next flight is at 10:30am.


Definitely too early, you have to clear customs...

Be sure to check Bangkokair as well... very good airline slightly higher class than Air Asia...

You really don't need a lot of time everywhere.. the animals are near each other. monkey shows run basically on the hour, elephant show if a little more tricky, plan around it if you want to go.

My priority list would be:
Tigers
Elephants riding/Bamboo rafting
Monkeys

Night market is great...

Leave some free time to just hang out and take it easy

Tailoring is very fast, they measure you and you choose your fabrics. They can ship to the US for you..

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #101 on: May 18, 2011, 10:50:53 AM »
At the Mai se (sp?) Elephant show (highly recommended how and incredibly inexpensive!)  you ride on a carriage on top of the elephant.  I assume at the other place you ride directly on the elephant?

Also at the Tiger Kingdom they have like 4 different sizes of tigers.  Infants were the most expensive, then the kids, and the medium and large tigers were the cheapest.  They also sell combo packages.
We did the mediums.

They also sell a CD of your photographs for 300THB (~$10) but we just brought our camera into the cage where there are 3 people helping you out for the 15 minutes you get in there.  There were more than happy taking hundreds of pictures with my camera in exchange for a tip.  I gave them 100THB and they seemed very happy with it.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #102 on: May 18, 2011, 12:56:06 PM »
Maese Elephant camp (http://www.maesaelephantcamp.com/ for show times)

I think it's worth paying the photographer fees at the Tiger Kingdom, they are not professional photographers but they got to know their camera settings (Nikon d90 when I was there) and there pictures were fabulous (the ones they took with my similar nikon weren't as good)... I would recommend the biggest tigers, it's unbelievable.. infants are good for families..

At all elephant camps you ride on a saddle/carriage... riding directly is only available in places where they teach you to be a mahout..

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #103 on: May 18, 2011, 04:48:03 PM »
Thanks for all the help.
 
Got the BKK-CNX-BKK in TG J added to my ticket so if all goes well ill arrive CNX 9:05am Sunday and depart Monday 5:05pm.

Do I have to pick up my bags in BKK, clear customs and recheck them or will TG check them all the way to CNX and clear customs there?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #104 on: May 18, 2011, 04:55:13 PM »
At all elephant camps you ride on a saddle/carriage... riding directly is only available in places where they teach you to be a mahout..
So what's the advantage of riding somewhere besides Maese?

Thanks for all the help.
 
Got the BKK-CNX-BKK in TG J added to my ticket so if all goes well ill arrive CNX 9:05am Sunday and depart Monday 5:05pm.

Do I have to pick up my bags in BKK, clear customs and recheck them or will TG check them all the way to CNX and clear customs there?
I flew Air Asia which has no interlining, so we had to claim and recheck.  Not sure about TG-TG.
On the outbound we flew TG from CNX and checked through BKK to HKG on CX.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2011, 05:09:12 PM »
Chikky, you mentioned going to the tigers earlier.
Seems like the most realistic time for the elephant show is 1:30pm. Is it pushing it to see the tigers before then?
Or, I should I go afterwards? Or Monday morning?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #106 on: May 18, 2011, 05:14:28 PM »
So what's the advantage of riding somewhere besides Maese?
I flew Air Asia which has no interlining, so we had to claim and recheck.  Not sure about TG-TG.
On the outbound we flew TG from CNX and checked through BKK to HKG on CX.
On the outbound, they'll check it all the way.
The question is on the inbound, even with interlining, do you have to clear customs at first point of entry? (Such is the case if you're flying for example, SYD-LAX-JFK. You pick up your bags in LAX, clear customs and then drop them off. You don't need to re-check, the tags have your destination on them, just gotta clear customs. )

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #107 on: May 19, 2011, 05:46:36 AM »
So what's the advantage of riding somewhere besides Maese?
The other locations are nicer, more dense jungle, mountains, rivers etc..

You definitely have plenty of time to go to the tiger place before the elephant show.. Hopefully won't have too long of a wait time.

I advise going there first thing in the morning, as the day progresses they get sleepy and the trainers have to poke them to move around... Also it's less hot and pictures are better as you won't necessarily be in straight sunlight.

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #108 on: May 19, 2011, 06:29:53 AM »
The other locations are nicer, more dense jungle, mountains, rivers etc..

You definitely have plenty of time to go to the tiger place before the elephant show.. Hopefully won't have too long of a wait time.

I advise going there first thing in the morning, as the day progresses they get sleepy and the trainers have to poke them to move around... Also it's less hot and pictures are better as you won't necessarily be in straight sunlight.
Chikky, thanks for the advice.Where are the other places to do the elephant riding?

Any place to go bungee jumping? Preferably safe ;)

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2011, 10:46:11 AM »
Bungee is a few minutes away from the animals... did it and its safe http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #110 on: May 19, 2011, 11:27:02 AM »
Bungee is a few minutes away from the animals... did it and its safe http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/
Cool. Did you try any of the other activities? Off road buggies look like fun...

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #111 on: May 19, 2011, 12:04:19 PM »
Awesome to have first hand experience.
Just reading again through the wealth of info and came across my post,
Wow, you really know that part of the world down to the last detail...
Really enjoy reading.
One day ill get there...
:D
So now I'm looking at doing:
Tiger Kingdom
Elephant Show
Elephant Riding, Bamboo Rafts (Chikky, you have the info on the other place?)
Monkey Show
Snake show (worth seeing?)
Xcentre-Bungee Jumping, off road bikes/buggies
Sunday night market
(Can I do all the above on Sunday? Arriving 9:05am, drop my stuff off and I'm on my way..)
Long tail boat rides (worth doing?)
Perhaps just checking out the city, on a tuk tuk, rent a scooter (anywhere specific?)
Get some clothes tailored.

Long neck tribe doesn't look so interesting.

Anything else that you would add/subtract/do instead?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #112 on: May 19, 2011, 12:17:33 PM »
I don't think you'll be able to do all that.

Let's say you're with your bags in a taxi that you've negotiated a rate for the entire day (hopefully for less than 900 THB) at 9:30am. 
(Don't forget to grab some free sim cards at baggage claim!)
Allow 90 minutes to go to the hotel, checkin, put your stuff in the room, and then taxi out to the animal parks.
Now it's 11am.
Do you have food with you are do you want to eat breakfast/lunch at Chabad (prices are insanely cheap like $1 pancakes, $4 burgers, great lachmaniot and fruit shakes and etc and the food is pretty good)

Tiger Kingdom-Allow 1 hour
Elephant Show-Allow 1 hour
Elephant Riding-Allow 1 hour at 1:30pm only.
Bamboo Rafts-Didn't do this, but maybe 2 hours?
Monkey Show-Allow 30 minutes
Snake show (worth seeing?)-Didn't do this but maybe 30 minutes?
Xcentre-Bungee Jumping, off road bikes/buggies-Didn't do this but that's got to take some good time I'd imagine.

You'll want to get dinner at chabad at some point.

Sunday night market (Ratchadamonoen Road in the old city) starts at 5pm, but peak hours are like 7-11pm I think.  You can take a tuktuk there or a red shared ride open van.

You also don't want to miss the night market on Changklan road between Chabad and the hotel.

Long tail boat rides (worth doing?)-Didn't do that or the long-neck.

Get some clothes tailored-try to find out where a good place is, maybe the shliach knows?
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #113 on: May 19, 2011, 12:37:58 PM »
Truth is I have most of Monday as well. Just thought if a bunch of things are together, see how many I can do.

I'll bring some some food on the plane with me, eat a big breakfast BKK-CNX and with a couple of snacks ill be good until dinner.
I was thinking similarly, arrive at animal parks at 11.
First, Tiger Kingdom.
Monkey Show and snake show?
Elephant Show 1:30
Elephant Ride and bamboo rafts.(gotta find out from Chikky how far that is)

Seems like that would already take me until 5:00-5:30

Head back to town, chabad house, mincha/maariv, maybe learn something eat dinner.

The regular night market starts the same time as Sunday market? Thinking to go to regular one then to Sunday market (min hakal el hakovod).
Then crash in my Junior suite at the LM (Thanks Dan!!!)

Monday:
Early rise (jet lag)
Shachris
Breakfast
Xcentre (maybe forget breakfast...)

Depending on how long that takes, back to town, tailor and if I have more time explore the city before picking up some food and heading to the airport.

Where am I right/wrong?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #114 on: May 19, 2011, 12:45:29 PM »
Sounds awesome!

Enjoy the suite and the club-they are awesome.  And maybe leave some time for the nice infinity pool.

There are also lots of ancient temples and palaces, etc.  We saw one for 5 minutes to be yotzei zain.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #115 on: May 19, 2011, 01:49:55 PM »
Can I negotiate at rate for a taxi for the day at the airport?

A day means they'll drive me everywhere, wait there and continue on at my pace?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #116 on: May 19, 2011, 01:59:23 PM »
Can I negotiate at rate for a taxi for the day at the airport?

A day means they'll drive me everywhere, wait there and continue on at my pace?
Yes.
Correct.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #117 on: May 19, 2011, 02:06:45 PM »
Any tips on best place to exchange money?
I doubt after you bargin down at the market to a 10th of the price you can just whip out your cc...

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« Reply #118 on: May 19, 2011, 02:09:31 PM »
Any tips on best place to exchange money?
I doubt after you bargin down at the market to a 10th of the price you can just whip out your cc...
I just used ATMs.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #119 on: May 24, 2011, 07:02:07 PM »
Has anyone on this forum had clothing (suits, shirts) made for them? If yes, what did you get, how much did you pay and were you satisfied with what you got? Thanks