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+1 800-525-3663 (5:00 - 18:00 PT) press 1 - 4 - JAL membership number - # - pin - # - 0 (for human or 1 for computer search)

Traveling with Infant: Tell JAL that you are flying with a lap child. They will put the infant on the reservation, but they will also tell you that you need to call PG directly to get the infant's ticket issued and pay for any taxes etc. JAL will only charge you for the adults on the reservation. Unless you speak Thai, calling PG won't work (when you press 9 for English when calling any of the Asian offices, the message will tell you to go to their website, and the office in Germany can't issue tickets). To add the infant, send an email to reservation@bangkokair.com with your confirmation number and tell them you want to have the lap infant's ticket issued. They will email you back with the price (data point: it was ~$96USD for CNX-USM-HKG for me) and ask you to reply with your cc info split into two separate emails for security (one email with first 8 digits, exp. and name on card, second email with last 8 digits, cvv, and billing address). I believe they only take Visa or MC. You'll then get an email back with confirmation.

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Hotels                                              Activities                                          Chabad                                                                Additional Info
Viengtai Hotel (Ohr Menachem)
Davis Hotel (Beth Elisheva)
Shangr-La (Even Chen)
Sheraton Resort (Hua Hin)
Riva Surya
Kao Sahn Rd
Night Markets (near stadium)
Shopping Malls
Grand Palace
Kanchanaburi (2 hrs away)
Floating Markets
Beth Elisheva (Financial & Shopping district)
Even Chen
Ohr Menachem (Kao Sahn Rd)
ALWAYS use meter in taxis and
   try to say destination in Thai - if you
   need help with numbers as Cbs ;)
(Free) sim in airport at kiosks -(true move(h- sim), dtac
   (happy(micro) sim for iPhone)
Songkran (water fight week)- April 13th!
Kosherthailand.com
BKK Luggage Lockers - 100 baht/day/bag (~$3)
Public Transport
Domestic flights:
   Air Asia, Tiger Air, Thai, Bangkok Air
Tailor:
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Phuket/Patong/Koh Phi Phi/Krabi   HKT/KBV

Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                            Additional Info
Westin
JW Marriott
Sala Resort
Sheraton Krabi
The Pavilions
Holiday Inn Koh Phi Phi
Ritz Carlton Reserve
places w/ private pools
Beaches
Monkey Show
Cable Skiing
Longtail Boats
Island Tour
Koh Phi Phi:
Diving
Fire Show (wed is biggest)
Maya Bay (full day trip)
Nice Lookouts
Kayaking (to Monkey Beach)
Thai Boxing
Beware of summer weather; monsoon season
Best weather: Jan - May
Island Tour (can be done as a day trip or overnight):
   Andaman River, Maya Bay, Similian Islands, Krabi Islands,
   Koh Lanta (Emerald Cave)




Koh Samui   USM

Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                          Additional Info
The Conrad
Sunday Resort
Sheraton
Le Meridian
The W
Le Murrya (Near Chabad)
Fx Hotel (Near Chabad)
Beaches
Diving (Koa Phangan, Koh Tao)
Ang Thong Marine Park Islands
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Kayaking $30
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The Conrad will gladly make arrangements with
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Le Meridien (10 min. Walk to Chabad)
Shangri La (2 min. Walk to Chabad)
Mandarin Oriental Dhara Dhevi
Sukantara Cascade Resort
Maese Elephant Show
Maetaeng Elephant Park
Patara Elephant Farm
Thai Elephant Home
Thoms Pai Elephant Camp
Bamboo Rafting
Tiger Kingdom
Monkey Shows
Snake Shows
Crocodile Shows
Zip Lining
Trekking
White Water Rafting
Longneck Tribe
Gun Shooting
Night Safari
Temples/Palaces
Chiang Mai River Boat (To Cooking School)
Extreme Sports!
Repelling
Caving,
ATVing
Bungee
Segways
Rent motorbikes (5$ day)
3D museum right down the road from Chabad
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Sunday Market (ratchadamonoen  Rd, old city)
Night Market (Changklan Rd, near Chabad & Le Meridien)
Sat Night Market (Wua Lai)
Tiger Kingdom is best in morning
Use ישראל 669  as travel agent for trips
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Recommended Zip Line: Flight of Gibbon or Flying Squirrel,
   can be reserved through Yackov (המרכז המטייל)
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When reserving tours, ask for a discount due to
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Tailors:
   CM Tailors
His and Hers- 3 minute walk from LM on the way to chabbad.




Chiang Rai   CEI/4hr drive from CNX

Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                            Additional Info
Le Meridien
Four Seasons Tent Camp Golden Triangle
Black House
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Ruaamit elephant camp
Pai village (3 hr drive)
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Scooters
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #270 on: July 24, 2012, 03:49:32 PM »
Anyone have kashrus advice? Can the coffee or sugar in hotels be used? What can be bought off the streets?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #271 on: July 24, 2012, 07:38:52 PM »
On my fourth try.
Couple agents have started doing it and then realized that I must transit BKK twice. Then they say its not allowed...

Damaxer, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

It was again and again and again AND again but I got an agent to process it. Just hope the re-ticketing isnt manual and someone else notices :-\

sorry to bring back and old topic.
what did you say on the phone? im flying to bkk and than i have a flight from hkt to hkg. trying to add bkk to cnx and than cnx to hkt. they told me that phuket is farther than bkk so it cant be done. what would everyone advise that i say on the phone?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #272 on: July 24, 2012, 10:09:15 PM »
sorry to bring back and old topic.
what did you say on the phone? im flying to bkk and than i have a flight from hkt to hkg. trying to add bkk to cnx and than cnx to hkt. they told me that phuket is farther than bkk so it cant be done. what would everyone advise that i say on the phone?
If the agent knows the rules, there's nothing you can say.

Just keep calling back and asking for the flights to be added. Hopefully you'll find someone to do it.

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #273 on: July 24, 2012, 11:45:36 PM »
sorry to bring back and old topic.
what did you say on the phone? im flying to bkk and than i have a flight from hkt to hkg. trying to add bkk to cnx and than cnx to hkt. they told me that phuket is farther than bkk so it cant be done. what would everyone advise that i say on the phone?
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #274 on: July 25, 2012, 10:33:23 AM »
Chabad next to kao sahn rd is the most exciting one with young tourists and its all in Hebrew .
The one by sukhumvit is geared, towards families and English speaking / businessman and the one in shangri la hotel is the sfardi people, (chabad rabbi)
I would say go to the main chabad house with wilhelm (next to kao sahn. Rd) . Its fun its free its exciting,  pretty good food. Great people

any nice hotels that work for shabbos in the area?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #275 on: July 25, 2012, 11:48:54 AM »
any nice hotels that work for shabbos in the area?
theres Viengtai Hotel which is across the chabad house and its not amazingly nice but its decent..about 1800-2000 baht a night .
there is another one thats newer in the area, i dont know what its called but you can come to chabad the day you get there and ask.

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #276 on: July 25, 2012, 01:31:22 PM »
Here is our tentative itinerary for our trip.

Fly from TLV to AMM to BKK in biz class.
Suffer a 12 hour stopover in AMM. Unsure if we'll stay in lounge, or go into the city. I still haven't seen anything particularly interesting in the city to do. (Anyone know which hotel status's give you benefits in their lounges? I recall signing up for s/t once that lets you stop in and have free tea or s/t.)
Land in BKK from AMM in the afternoon.
Have a 3-4 layover and fly to Chiang Rai.
While in BKK, have Chabad deliver food to airport for 500 Baht fee.
Land in Chiang Rai in evening, stay in Le Meridian for 2 nights on c&p
Perhaps hire a driver for day to take us around to sites. (Laos perhaps?) I received a price quote from s/o who was recommended on FT for 2,000 baht + gas for the day.
Take either a bus or car service from Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai after the 2 nights. (Any advice for what to do on the way? If there is s/t, we'd pay a car service.)
Spend 3 nights including shabbos at a resort outside of Chiang Mai.
The activities I am hoping to do include the Gibbons zip line, night safari, elephant ride, Sunday night shuk, waterfall. I'd be interested in hearing more ideas.
Spend the 4th night at the Le Meridian on c&p (which was only bookable after hours of calls and chats. it seems that they don't have 'standard' rooms, they're all deluxe or higher)
Fly to BKK, spend the evening at Park Plaza to receive 50k Carlson points, leave early the next morning.
Fly from BKK to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific biz class, short stopover, and then back to TLV on El Al.

I'd love anyone's advice or comments.

Also, I'm going to bump this question I asked.
Anyone have kashrus advice? Can the coffee or sugar in hotels be used? What can be bought off the streets?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #277 on: July 25, 2012, 01:40:39 PM »
2,000 Baht+gas sounds very expensive for a driver for a day.
We had a driver for a day in CM and it was maybe 800 Baht with gas IIRC.

Also don't miss the Saturday night market in CNX, the elephant show (supposedly there's a better place to actually ride the elephants), monkey show, cobra show, tiger kingdom, river ride, etc.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #278 on: July 25, 2012, 03:22:23 PM »
2,000 Baht+gas sounds very expensive for a driver for a day.
We had a driver for a day in CM and it was maybe 800 Baht with gas IIRC.

Also don't miss the Saturday night market in CNX, the elephant show (supposedly there's a better place to actually ride the elephants), monkey show, cobra show, tiger kingdom, river ride, etc.
never thought I would hear that $70 per day + gas is expensive for a car and tour guide :)  Gotta love the prices.

Is the Sunday night shuk than Saturday night? So they sell different stuff? Is the river ride okay for an infant, or is it not even worth asking?

Finally, any thoughts on the kashrus, or did you just eat at chabad when you were there?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #279 on: July 25, 2012, 03:27:03 PM »
You're talking about a city where a cab from the airport to the hotel costs $4...

I wasn't there for Sunday evening, but from what I heard they are very different.  There's also a nightly market of knockoffs on the street that the LM and Chabad are on.

I also didn't have time for the river ride, you'll have to ask ChikkyMonkey, he's the expert on CNX.

We just ate at Chabad and fressed on lots of Osem Tea Biscuits from their small store when doing activities.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #280 on: July 25, 2012, 03:53:36 PM »
With regards to your flights there:

1) Keep in mind that El Al business Class to BKK often opens on the day of departure.
2) Instead of wasting a day in AMM, see if EY Business is open and spend a day in AUH for the same amount of miles.

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #281 on: July 25, 2012, 04:27:51 PM »
While in BKK, have Chabad deliver food to airport for 500 Baht fee.

Perhaps hire a driver for day to take us around to sites. (Laos perhaps?) I received a price quote from s/o who was recommended on FT for 2,000 baht + gas for the day.

I'd love anyone's advice or comments.
did u confirm with chabad that they will deliver to the airport for 500 baht?

and a driver for the day at 2000 baht i also think is a bit expensive, especially if its just for around CNX. if you are leaving the city and its a few hours drive than it would make sense but im sure you can find cheaper... or bargain down

Finally, any thoughts on the kashrus, or did you just eat at chabad when you were there?
there are very few items you can buy outside in the streets with a hechsher. but if u want regular meals than stick with chabad....i only ate there (5 months straight!) i can tell you the menu by heart if you want ;)

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #282 on: July 25, 2012, 05:05:42 PM »
did u confirm with chabad that they will deliver to the airport for 500 baht?

and a driver for the day at 2000 baht i also think is a bit expensive, especially if its just for around CNX. if you are leaving the city and its a few hours drive than it would make sense but im sure you can find cheaper... or bargain down

I called Chabad, and that's what a lady told me, but I'm not counting on it. I'll call them closer to the date to confirm.

W/ regards to the price, if we paid s/o, it would be to do a day trip to the environs. He sent me a list of 10 sample day trips, and if anyone's interested, I can post it here.

Also, any update on the sim cards? Do I need to bring a phone to use and try to find a sim card? Do they still have them in the airport? And where is the best place to exchange money? Street?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #283 on: July 25, 2012, 05:09:41 PM »
Here is our tentative itinerary for our trip.

Spend the 4th night at the Le Meridian on c&p (which was only bookable after hours of calls and chats. it seems that they don't have 'standard' rooms, they're all deluxe or higher)


What did you tell them in order to book? I need to call them tonight, last time i tried the reservation was closed.

I have one day im looking to spend at a resort my options are either-

Chiang Rai LM Cat 2
Seems like a nicer area but it will mean driving up 3 hours on Thursday and then taking a 10:40 flight, arrive 11:4- on Friday  ($89) so we could be Shabbos in Bangkok to catch our 1:00am flight out Moitzei Shabbos, i would also like time Friday to check out the palace and floating markets

Sheraton Pattaya Cat 4
The resort is just south of Pattaya along the beach i dont plan on going in to the city) but since we are going to be in BKK for Friday and Shabbos it might just be worth flying CNX-BKK on Thursday57$ and spending the Thursday afternoon and night at the Sheraton


 
Land in Chiang Rai in evening, stay in Le Meridian for 2 nights on c&p

Is there anything specific you found to do in Chiang Rai that cant be done out of Chiang Mai, or are you going more for the LM which seems to be very nice?
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #284 on: July 25, 2012, 05:11:22 PM »

W/ regards to the price, if we paid s/o, it would be to do a day trip to the environs. He sent me a list of 10 sample day trips, and if anyone's interested, I can post it here.
I would be interested maybe it will give me some more ideas :D