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Booking the Flight: The only way to find out if there is availability on the flight that you want is to call JAL. Recommended that you do so before transferring points. JAL doesn't allow you to hold a reservation so you have to hope that the flight doesn't get booked up while you're waiting for the point transfer to go through. Once the points post to your JAL account, call JAL back to book.
+1 800-525-3663 (5:00 - 18:00 PT) press 1 - 4 - JAL membership number - # - pin - # - 0 (for human or 1 for computer search)

Traveling with Infant: Tell JAL that you are flying with a lap child. They will put the infant on the reservation, but they will also tell you that you need to call PG directly to get the infant's ticket issued and pay for any taxes etc. JAL will only charge you for the adults on the reservation. Unless you speak Thai, calling PG won't work (when you press 9 for English when calling any of the Asian offices, the message will tell you to go to their website, and the office in Germany can't issue tickets). To add the infant, send an email to reservation@bangkokair.com with your confirmation number and tell them you want to have the lap infant's ticket issued. They will email you back with the price (data point: it was ~$96USD for CNX-USM-HKG for me) and ask you to reply with your cc info split into two separate emails for security (one email with first 8 digits, exp. and name on card, second email with last 8 digits, cvv, and billing address). I believe they only take Visa or MC. You'll then get an email back with confirmation.

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Hotels                                              Activities                                          Chabad                                                                Additional Info
Viengtai Hotel (Ohr Menachem)
Davis Hotel (Beth Elisheva)
Shangr-La (Even Chen)
Sheraton Resort (Hua Hin)
Riva Surya
Kao Sahn Rd
Night Markets (near stadium)
Shopping Malls
Grand Palace
Kanchanaburi (2 hrs away)
Floating Markets
Beth Elisheva (Financial & Shopping district)
Even Chen
Ohr Menachem (Kao Sahn Rd)
ALWAYS use meter in taxis and
   try to say destination in Thai - if you
   need help with numbers as Cbs ;)
(Free) sim in airport at kiosks -(true move(h- sim), dtac
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Songkran (water fight week)- April 13th!
Kosherthailand.com
BKK Luggage Lockers - 100 baht/day/bag (~$3)
Public Transport
Domestic flights:
   Air Asia, Tiger Air, Thai, Bangkok Air
Tailor:
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Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                            Additional Info
Westin
JW Marriott
Sala Resort
Sheraton Krabi
The Pavilions
Holiday Inn Koh Phi Phi
Ritz Carlton Reserve
places w/ private pools
Beaches
Monkey Show
Cable Skiing
Longtail Boats
Island Tour
Koh Phi Phi:
Diving
Fire Show (wed is biggest)
Maya Bay (full day trip)
Nice Lookouts
Kayaking (to Monkey Beach)
Thai Boxing
Beware of summer weather; monsoon season
Best weather: Jan - May
Island Tour (can be done as a day trip or overnight):
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Koh Samui   USM

Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                          Additional Info
The Conrad
Sunday Resort
Sheraton
Le Meridian
The W
Le Murrya (Near Chabad)
Fx Hotel (Near Chabad)
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Diving (Koa Phangan, Koh Tao)
Ang Thong Marine Park Islands
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Scooter (around island)
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The Conrad will gladly make arrangements with
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Le Meridien (10 min. Walk to Chabad)
Shangri La (2 min. Walk to Chabad)
Mandarin Oriental Dhara Dhevi
Sukantara Cascade Resort
Maese Elephant Show
Maetaeng Elephant Park
Patara Elephant Farm
Thai Elephant Home
Thoms Pai Elephant Camp
Bamboo Rafting
Tiger Kingdom
Monkey Shows
Snake Shows
Crocodile Shows
Zip Lining
Trekking
White Water Rafting
Longneck Tribe
Gun Shooting
Night Safari
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Repelling
Caving,
ATVing
Bungee
Segways
Rent motorbikes (5$ day)
3D museum right down the road from Chabad
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Sunday Market (ratchadamonoen  Rd, old city)
Night Market (Changklan Rd, near Chabad & Le Meridien)
Sat Night Market (Wua Lai)
Tiger Kingdom is best in morning
Use ישראל 669  as travel agent for trips
   (next door to Chabad)
Recommended Zip Line: Flight of Gibbon or Flying Squirrel,
   can be reserved through Yackov (המרכז המטייל)
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When reserving tours, ask for a discount due to
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Tailors:
   CM Tailors
His and Hers- 3 minute walk from LM on the way to chabbad.




Chiang Rai   CEI/4hr drive from CNX

Hotels                                                            Activities                                                                            Additional Info
Le Meridien
Four Seasons Tent Camp Golden Triangle
Black House
Queens Residence
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Waterfalls
White Temple
Ruaamit elephant camp
Pai village (3 hr drive)
Hot Springs
Scooters
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #900 on: April 21, 2013, 02:06:41 PM »
Looks great, doesn't seem to be a replacement for the Mae Sa show as much as a replacement for the Mae Sa ride.

I agree. From the comments, it looks like a totally different kind of excursion.

Were the Mae Sa ride and show billed differently such that I could see the show there and do the ride elsewhere?
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #901 on: April 21, 2013, 02:09:25 PM »
120 for a taxi.
150 now 10 - 15 min ride

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #902 on: April 21, 2013, 02:09:43 PM »
Were the Mae Sa ride and show billed differently such that I could see the show there and do the ride elsewhere?
Yes.
If you have the time I'd definitely do it that way.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #903 on: April 21, 2013, 02:10:05 PM »
150 now 10 - 15 min ride
My guess is you can bargain for 120 flat.
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #904 on: April 21, 2013, 02:32:31 PM »
i used a guy a few doors down from chabad his name was rafi i felt better giving a jew the money even if he was a bit more expencive he charged me 800 bht for the day took me to monkeys tiger cobra and crocodile had a comfy pick up truck and spoke English
and funny you mention i actually met the rabbi from chiang mai at the lm kaho lak booked on points   

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #905 on: April 21, 2013, 02:38:53 PM »
and try to avoid going to orchat garden and village tours complete waist of time im pretty sure u could do elaphent and long neck in one day trip and all the other animals in another day trip
the elephant camp we when to also came with bamboo rafting ox cart ride elephant ride and show was a pretty solid place 

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #906 on: April 21, 2013, 02:41:52 PM »
and try to avoid going to orchat garden and village tours complete waist of time im pretty sure u could do elaphent and long neck in one day trip and all the other animals in another day trip
the elephant camp we when to also came with bamboo rafting ox cart ride elephant ride and show was a pretty solid place

Which elephant camp did you go to?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #907 on: April 21, 2013, 02:47:28 PM »
Which elephant camp did you go to?

Where's your TR???
did pretty much what everybody els did so dont think theres a need for a TR im not sure the name of the elephant camp the guy that i mentioned rafi sent me there
he charged me $240 for 3 days of day trips each one from about 8am till 430pm

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #908 on: April 21, 2013, 02:49:20 PM »
did pretty much what everybody els did so dont think theres a need for a TR im not sure the name of the elephant camp the guy that i mentioned rafi sent me there
he charged me $240 for 3 days of day trips each one from about 8am till 430pm

How your trip was structured, where you stayed, what you did each day -- all valuable... don't be lazy (or a leach!) :P

Did the $240 include the activities? Or just transportation?
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #909 on: April 21, 2013, 02:50:27 PM »
How your trip was structured, where you stayed, what you did each day -- all valuable... don't be lazy (or a leach!) :P

Did the $240 include the activities? Or just transportation?
+1 tr please

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #910 on: April 21, 2013, 03:04:13 PM »
150 now 10 - 15 min ride
i was there 2 weeks before you and my meter said 96 THB to chabad :P - which down the block from la meridean

and i paid an extra 50 thb at airport for the taxi. - but i think u can get off the 50 THB if you walk to the parking lot to the left of arrivals and get your own taxi. (but again thats $1.66 so...)

did pretty much what everybody els did so dont think theres a need for a TR im not sure the name of the elephant camp the guy that i mentioned rafi sent me there
he charged me $240 for 3 days of day trips each one from about 8am till 430pm
i think $240 is a lot. i paid for 3 days of trips - inclu. transportation and fruits for lunch around $150

i saw rafi store which is 2 doors left from yisrael whos next door to chabad. the guys at chabad told me to go to Yisrael , (a side note - hes shomer shabbos)

@ AJK - look into the ziplining there. its really cool and an expierence. theres Flight of the gibbon and Flying Squirrel - i did Flying Squirrel. theyre basically the same thing. 

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #911 on: April 21, 2013, 03:12:32 PM »
what class?how was it?
business, great

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #912 on: April 21, 2013, 03:16:49 PM »
i went on the elephant ride at maesa, took the shortest one, maybe half hour. it was definitely more than enough time

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #913 on: April 21, 2013, 03:19:03 PM »
How your trip was structured, where you stayed, what you did each day -- all valuable... don't be lazy (or a leach!) :P

Did the $240 include the activities? Or just transportation?
haha kk heres the TR landed in bkk fri morning thai air 1st class = amazing!!!! stayed at holtel across from chabbad called Viengtai decent ac worked had a pool the basics.shabb chabad. sunday morning flew air asia to phuket stayed at Lm kaho lak didnt pick up food first on the way cause i figured i would go in to phuket for the day anyway to check it out but the resort was so nice that i didnt want to waist the day in a car!! luckily i met the rabbi from chiang mai he had a car and was driving in to phuket anyway so i ordered food and he brought it back for me = really nice guy!!!!
stayed at kaho lak from sunday through wensday wensday night flew to chiang mai air asia again stayed at the lm  thursday did all the animal shows and tiger kingdom (payed the guy in the cage 50 bht took GR8 pics  no need to spend 300bht for the "professional" ones )
   fri took a day trip in a ten seater van with a guide to the long necks some other village some cave and orchat garden everything besides the long necks was a complete waist of time and money kinda upsetting
shabbas at chabad  was gr8
sunday did the elephant camp also in the van once i was on the way the guide mentions that where also heading to the long necks and orcht garden since some of the other ppl on the tour payed for it
so we got him to drop us off after the elephant camp to a place and we where able to get a cab back
monday afternoon took bangkok air back to bkk sign up for there ff program and get a extra 10 k of luggage :)
since we where on the way to israel we kept all our luggage and the Viengtai hotel for 30 bht a day per bag so we when back there for monday night
tues morn flew thai air business to hongkong but thats for a diff thread :)   

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #914 on: April 21, 2013, 03:22:35 PM »
i was there 2 weeks before you and my meter said 96 THB to chabad :P - which down the block from la meridean

and i paid an extra 50 thb at airport for the taxi. - but i think u can get off the 50 THB if you walk to the parking lot to the left of arrivals and get your own taxi. (but again thats $1.66 so...)
i think $240 is a lot. i paid for 3 days of trips - inclu. transportation and fruits for lunch around $150

i saw rafi store which is 2 doors left from yisrael whos next door to chabad. the guys at chabad told me to go to Yisrael , (a side note - hes shomer shabbos)

@ AJK - look into the ziplining there. its really cool and an expierence. theres Flight of the gibbon and Flying Squirrel - i did Flying Squirrel. theyre basically the same thing.
mine was including transportation they also referred me next door and all i saw was rafi guess i missed this yisrael guy could be i over payed   

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #915 on: April 21, 2013, 03:39:25 PM »
AJK, how long are you spending in CNX?

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« Reply #916 on: April 21, 2013, 03:51:21 PM »
@ AJK - look into the ziplining there. its really cool and an expierence. theres Flight of the gibbon and Flying Squirrel - i did Flying Squirrel. theyre basically the same thing.

Yep, flight of the gibbon is on the itin :)

Maybe I'll organize everything through this Yisrael guy? Does he have an email? Speak english well?

AJK, how long are you spending in CNX?

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #917 on: April 21, 2013, 03:51:55 PM »
Ajk i found on jet setter a deal for Phuket. I didnt look into it Et, just have to get to a computer but here.

http://m.jetsetter.com/hotels/thailand/phuket/3246/the-village-coconut-island
If you have any questions please search and then ask. PM me for detailed help.

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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #918 on: April 21, 2013, 03:55:13 PM »
haha kk heres the TR landed in bkk fri morning thai air 1st class = amazing!!!! stayed at holtel across from chabbad called Viengtai decent ac worked had a pool the basics.shabb chabad. sunday morning flew air asia to phuket stayed at Lm kaho lak didnt pick up food first on the way cause i figured i would go in to phuket for the day anyway to check it out but the resort was so nice that i didnt want to waist the day in a car!! luckily i met the rabbi from chiang mai he had a car and was driving in to phuket anyway so i ordered food and he brought it back for me = really nice guy!!!!
stayed at kaho lak from sunday through wensday wensday night flew to chiang mai air asia again stayed at the lm  thursday did all the animal shows and tiger kingdom (payed the guy in the cage 50 bht took GR8 pics  no need to spend 300bht for the "professional" ones )
   fri took a day trip in a ten seater van with a guide to the long necks some other village some cave and orchat garden everything besides the long necks was a complete waist of time and money kinda upsetting
shabbas at chabad  was gr8
sunday did the elephant camp also in the van once i was on the way the guide mentions that where also heading to the long necks and orcht garden since some of the other ppl on the tour payed for it
so we got him to drop us off after the elephant camp to a place and we where able to get a cab back
monday afternoon took bangkok air back to bkk sign up for there ff program and get a extra 10 k of luggage :)
since we where on the way to israel we kept all our luggage and the Viengtai hotel for 30 bht a day per bag so we when back there for monday night
tues morn flew thai air business to hongkong but thats for a diff thread :)

This will have to do, thanks :)

What plane did you fly into BKK? From where? (I want to see if it was the new F or not...)

How much was Shabbas meals in CNX chabad?

What are "long necks?" Giraffes?

I was wondering about the professional photos -- both you and Dan and others just recommend tipping an employee. That seals it for me.

Good tip about signing up for Bangkok Air's FF prog for 10kg extra!
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Re: Thailand Master Thread
« Reply #919 on: April 21, 2013, 03:55:56 PM »
Ajk i found on jet setter a deal for Phuket. I didnt look into it Et, just have to get to a computer but here.

http://m.jetsetter.com/hotels/thailand/phuket/3246/the-village-coconut-island

We're skipping HKT this time 'round. So no use for us, but thanks anyway.
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