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Rav Kav Questions
« on: February 25, 2020, 11:43:17 AM »
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but...

I am going to Israel next week for literally a week, and I was curious about Rav Kav.  I will be mainly taking the inner city buses light rail in Jerusalem, but also spending a day in Tel-Aviv and expecting to use the train to get to and from the airport and Tel-Aviv.

Is there a seven-day Rav Kav that I can use for the week? If so how much does it cost? Can I use the NFC in my Android phone to pay or do I need to get a physical card?

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2020, 11:48:42 AM »
im based in bklyn and can lend you mine if you need
i dont think they have a 7 day unlimited pass

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2020, 12:03:40 PM »
So I found this - https://ravkavonline.co.il/en/public-transport-in-israel

What I learned from it:
- You can buy a weekly pass for 64 Shek, or a daily for 13.50 - but it seems this is only inner city, so won't help me on the way to Tel-Aviv.
- You can pre-pay for stored value you get 1.25 for every Shekel - it seems that 30=37.5 and 50=62.50

I am assuming I can pick up one at a kiosk at the airport.
I also assume that if I buy stored value, I can swipe multiple times - i.e. for me and my kids traveling with me, as opposed to each of us needing a card.

im based in bklyn and can lend you mine if you need
i dont think they have a 7 day unlimited pass

Thank you for your generous offer - don't think I'll be in brooklyn (or anywhere near it) before I leave.

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2020, 12:07:45 PM »
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but...

I am going to Israel next week for literally a week, and I was curious about Rav Kav.  I will be mainly taking the inner city buses light rail in Jerusalem, but also spending a day in Tel-Aviv and expecting to use the train to get to and from the airport and Tel-Aviv.

Is there a seven-day Rav Kav that I can use for the week? If so how much does it cost? Can I use the NFC in my Android phone to pay or do I need to get a physical card?

I don't think there's any pass that'll help you across all services: if I understand correctly, although your Rav Kav is used to store ערך צבור (stored value) that can be used on public transit all over Israel, the city busses, intercity trains, and non-egged intercity busses are all operated by different companies that have their own fares and just deduct from your stored value.

You cannot pay with NFC, though you can use the Rav Kav app to load your Rav Kav from your NFC device.


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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 12:09:09 PM »
I also assume that if I buy stored value, I can swipe multiple times - i.e. for me and my kids traveling with me, as opposed to each of us needing a card.
On the bus-yes. On the Jerusalem Light Rail-no, each person needs a Rav Kav, or else you need to buy paper tickets on the platform for everyone else. On the train from the airport-idk.

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 12:25:53 PM »
Thanks @Yehudaa - this is really helpful. One more for you - is there an initial fee for the card, or do I get the card for free - and simply need to load money onto it?

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2020, 12:28:49 PM »
I don't think the stored value works on all operators.
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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2020, 12:31:11 PM »
FYI a weekly pass isnít a 7-day pass. It goes by Sunday-Motzaei Shabbos, not 7 days from when you buy it.
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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2020, 12:34:01 PM »
Thanks @Yehudaa - this is really helpful. One more for you - is there an initial fee for the card, or do I get the card for free - and simply need to load money onto it?
Anonymous cards are ~6 shekel.

Cards with your photo on it are free, and value can be recovered if card is lost, but you have to go to one of their locations and fill out an application, which can entail long lines. I'm not sure about weekly passes on anonymous rav kavs, AFAIK you need a personalized card for monthly passes, though maybe weekly passes are different

If you're just there for a week I'd just buy an anonymous one. You should be able to buy one at the airport, I think it's right after customs.

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2020, 12:37:09 PM »
I don't think the stored value works on all operators.
Any idea which ones it doesn't work on?

FYI a weekly pass isnít a 7-day pass. It goes by Sunday-Motzaei Shabbos, not 7 days from when you buy it.
Good to know, I've never used a weekly pass.

Same with monthly passes. If you buy in the middle of the month you pay for a full month but only get service for half a month :)

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2020, 02:13:51 PM »
Anonymous cards are ~6 shekel.

Cards with your photo on it are free, and value can be recovered if card is lost, but you have to go to one of their locations and fill out an application, which can entail long lines. I'm not sure about weekly passes on anonymous rav kavs, AFAIK you need a personalized card for monthly passes, though maybe weekly passes are different

If you're just there for a week I'd just buy an anonymous one. You should be able to buy one at the airport, I think it's right after customs.

That's what I plan on doing. I am going to literally be on the ground for about 5.5 days - it doesn't seem like the weekly is a good fit. 

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2020, 02:48:31 PM »
When i was in Jerusalem 2 years ago I was able to buy Rav Kav anonymous card on the bus and load only the required fare for that ride. I wasnt able to find a location to refill the card so ended up buying a new card every time i used the bus... Have a whole collection now... :o

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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2020, 02:57:37 PM »
When i was in Jerusalem 2 years ago I was able to buy Rav Kav anonymous card on the bus and load only the required fare for that ride. I wasnt able to find a location to refill the card so ended up buying a new card every time i used the bus... Have a whole collection now... :o
You can reload the card at like every store and half the atms. I would not rely on the android app to reload btw, I've found it can be finicky. You can always reload at the train stop though so it should be pretty easy.
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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2020, 03:02:38 PM »
Anonymous cards are ~6 shekel.

Cards with your photo on it are free, and value can be recovered if card is lost, but you have to go to one of their locations and fill out an application, which can entail long lines. I'm not sure about weekly passes on anonymous rav kavs, AFAIK you need a personalized card for monthly passes, though maybe weekly passes are different

If you're just there for a week I'd just buy an anonymous one. You should be able to buy one at the airport, I think it's right after customs.


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Re: Rav Kav Questions
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2020, 03:09:28 PM »
You can reload the card at like every store and half the atms. I would not rely on the android app to reload btw, I've found it can be finicky. You can always reload at the train stop though so it should be pretty easy.
I agree about the app. That was my main issue. I dont remember why i couldnt find a store to reload... And we didnt use the train station so that was out...