Author Topic: YQ on AA international award redemptions?!? (Read 9388 times)

Dan · « **Reply #40 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:25:44 AM »

Quote from: Side incomer on August 28, 2013, 11:23:21 AM

Per the memo there is going to be YQ even on AA int'l flights.

And according to their tweets it won't.
Everyone is confused right now. I'm not sure what good a confused post will be.

AJK · « **Reply #41 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:27:29 AM »

Quote from: Side incomer on August 28, 2013, 11:08:58 AM

+1

It's news that you can't skip on it.

@AJK, don't you think that with a class action Lawsuit they'll give in?

I mean, this has to stop by all means... There is no reason UA and DL shouldn't follow suit if this goes through quietly. If AA will get hassled by a suit, even if they'll win, it'll take away the appetite of the other airlines to follow.

I agree 100% if one does it (AA), the others will follow (even though DL already imposes on some partners).

The problem with a Class Action is (i) you need a cause of action (bringing it frivolously is not only unethical and sanctionable, its not profitable, which leads to the second problem), and (ii) CA lawyers are mostly contingency guys... they're not going to take a case they'll lose, so again, back to #1: need a good substantive basis upon which to complain - and with that "we can do whatever the hell we want with our program whenever we want" clause, it's a tough sell.

Dan · « **Reply #42 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:28:16 AM »

So is AA doing this to effectively kill the merger?

AJK · « **Reply #43 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:30:12 AM »

Can't be coincidental.

DoJ is watching them right now like a hawk.

ETA:

Unless, of course, this ends up being an April Fool's joke in August. Hope!

chff · « **Reply #44 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:30:49 AM »

Nice to follow along on Twitter hiw @americanair tries to clean up the mess

Dan · « **Reply #45 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:31:59 AM »

Quote from: AJK on August 28, 2013, 11:30:12 AM

Can't be coincidental.

DoJ is watching them right now like a hawk.

And we all know that AA didn't really want to merge but was forced into it by the unions, etc...

AJK · « **Reply #46 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:34:18 AM »

Quote from: Dan on August 28, 2013, 11:31:59 AM

And we all know that AA didn't really want to merge but was forced into it by the unions, etc...

I'd kill to know what Tom Horton is thinking now... while pulling petals of a flower:

$20 MM...

Keep job as CEO...

$20 MM...

Keep job as CEO...

Dan · « **Reply #47 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:35:09 AM »

CEO earns a whole lot more than $20MM.

AJK · « **Reply #48 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:37:06 AM »

Quote from: Dan on August 28, 2013, 11:35:09 AM

CEO earns a whole lot more than $20MM.

Yeah, but the problem is that even if he remains CEO, he's left with a tainted program, historically one of the better FF programs (not to mention the oldest), and pisses off hordes of loyal members.

Then again, if the merger doesn't go through, he can always revert back when he's back at the helm.

AJK · « **Reply #49 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:44:30 AM »

ALL A MISTAKE!

YAY!!

Per Lucky:

Quote

Last night, in a routine effort to better align American to industry standards with other global carriers, American begin collecting carrier-imposed surcharges on tickets for travel on other carrier’s metal. This change was intended for revenue tickets only, but the surcharge was erroneously added to AAdvantage award redemptions on other airlines as well. Except in the cases of British Airways and Iberia (where American currently collects these surcharges), no carrier-imposed surcharges will be applied when redeeming AAdvantage miles for award travel on other carriers. Any customers who encountered this fee in error will be fully refunded.

Dan · « **Reply #50 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:47:29 AM »

Quote from: AJK on August 28, 2013, 11:44:30 AM

ALL A MISTAKE!

YAY!!

Per Lucky:

Exactly why I don't run to post rumors anymore.
#Vindicated

Dan · « **Reply #51 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:48:47 AM »

Quote from: jaywhy on August 28, 2013, 11:01:43 AM

+1
$$$$

Shocking as this may seem to you, not everything is about the money.

AJK · « **Reply #52 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:49:51 AM »

But do we buy the excuse?

Any chance they instituted the change, but then backtracked when the blogosphere/FT/twitter went cray cray?

Do we even care may be a better question.

Dan · « **Reply #53 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:51:53 AM »

Quote from: AJK on August 28, 2013, 11:49:51 AM

Any chance they instituted the change, but then backtracked when the blogosphere/FT/twitter went cray cray?

I don't think so.
The timing of this whole thing really made no sense. It could single-handedly kill the merger.

Why poke the beast in the eye and give them ammo when you're spending millions of dollars fighting them in court?

meshugener · « **Reply #54 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:52:57 AM »

ONLY FOR REVENUE TICKETS!!!!!!!

txtmax4 · « **Reply #55 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:53:29 AM »

http://boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2013/08/28/official-statement-from-american-regarding-the-fuel-surcharges-on-award-tickets/

Dan · « **Reply #56 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:53:54 AM »

Quote from: meshugener on August 28, 2013, 11:52:57 AM

ONLY FOR REVENUE TICKETS!!!!!!!

Welcome to 10 minutes ago?

AJK · « **Reply #57 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:55:04 AM »

Quote from: Dan on August 28, 2013, 11:51:53 AM

I don't think so.
The timing of this whole thing really made no sense. It could single-handedly kill the merger.

Why poke the beast in the eye and give them ammo when you're spending millions of dollars fighting them in court?

Like you said... AA rebuffed US for months if not years prior to yielding.

Officers ≠ shareholders...

Quote from: Dan on August 28, 2013, 11:53:54 AM

Welcome to 10 minutes ago?

+1

meshugener · « **Reply #58 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:55:46 AM »

Quote from: Dan on August 28, 2013, 11:53:54 AM

Welcome to 10 minutes ago?

8 minutes.
Thats what happens when you rely on Ashford.

txtmax4 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:56:13 AM »

I'm sure there will be stupid reps today trying to charge the fee as per the memo...