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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2805 on: June 19, 2019, 08:01:30 PM »
What are they?
Religious and personal belief.

ETA: I think the way it generally works is that the religious exemption states don't allow personal belief exemptions, while the personal belief exemption states allow either (ie bchlal masayim maneh).

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2806 on: June 19, 2019, 09:19:38 PM »
What's wrong with ונשמרתם... as their beliefs?

Can you refer me to a Tshuva that paskens that ונשמרתם forbids vaccination?

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2807 on: June 19, 2019, 09:28:31 PM »
Can you refer me to a Tshuva that paskens that ונשמרתם forbids vaccination?
I can't. That's exactly what I would answer them.
I was thinking along the lines that it can't be worse than eating unhealthy even lshitosom.

Maybe they could.
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2808 on: June 20, 2019, 12:29:22 AM »
Religious and personal belief.

ETA: I think the way it generally works is that the religious exemption states don't allow personal belief exemptions, while the personal belief exemption states allow either (ie bchlal masayim maneh).

In Louisiana IIRC the exemptions are; 1) medical 2) religious 3) philosophical.
As a school we canít deny admission if a family claims one of these exemptions, however if there were to be an outbreak we can require them to stay home for the duration.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2809 on: June 20, 2019, 04:02:55 PM »
In Louisiana IIRC the exemptions are; 1) medical 2) religious 3) philosophical.
As a school we canít deny admission if a family claims one of these exemptions, however if there were to be an outbreak we can require them to stay home for the duration.
NY only has 1 and 2 (and they just repealed 2), so it makes it a lot easier I assume, but plenty of yeshivas don't allow 2. In fact, HALB was sued by parents who tried to claim 2, and they won in court: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nyedce/2:2015cv07004/378877/25/. But that was only a specific ruling, that the parents in question were really coming from personal belief (which is not covered in NY) and not religion.

There's another case going on now with Shulamith as well:
https://nypost.com/2019/06/01/state-education-department-ordered-jewish-school-to-accept-unvaccinated-kids/

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2810 on: June 20, 2019, 04:54:24 PM »
NY only has 1 and 2 (and they just repealed 2), so it makes it a lot easier I assume, but plenty of yeshivas don't allow 2. In fact, HALB was sued by parents who tried to claim 2, and they won in court: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nyedce/2:2015cv07004/378877/25/. But that was only a specific ruling, that the parents in question were really coming from personal belief (which is not covered in NY) and not religion.

There's another case going on now with Shulamith as well:
https://nypost.com/2019/06/01/state-education-department-ordered-jewish-school-to-accept-unvaccinated-kids/

I misread your original post, I thought you were saying that itís either one or the other.
Now that I reread it, my comment should be read as anecdotal support

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2811 on: July 06, 2019, 10:28:38 PM »
CLE-FLL tomorrow morning. B6 is still selling at least 7 seats.

Accepting bets on whether:
-I get the whole row and nobody sitting in front of me.
-I get the whole row.
-I get an empty middle seat.
-None of the above

@CountValentine will set the line.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2812 on: July 06, 2019, 10:35:26 PM »
Those seats get taken, another 15 others open up.
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2813 on: July 06, 2019, 10:38:38 PM »
Accepting bets on whether:
-I get the whole row and nobody sitting in front of me.
-I get the whole row.
-I get an empty middle seat.
-None of the above
10-1
8-1
2-1
1-1


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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2814 on: July 06, 2019, 10:45:58 PM »
CLE-FLL in July.

Who would fly such a route (except to participate in a bris)?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2815 on: July 06, 2019, 10:46:54 PM »
CLE-FLL in July.

Who would fly such a route (except to participate in a bris)?
People returning from vacation? CLE is a great place to go in the summer.
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2816 on: July 06, 2019, 10:47:53 PM »
CLE-FLL in July.

Who would fly such a route (except to participate in a bris)?
Anyone that's wants to get out of CLE.
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2817 on: July 06, 2019, 10:49:50 PM »
Anyone that's wants to get out of CLE.
Many reasons for that, but in July to (South) Florida?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2818 on: July 07, 2019, 06:15:11 AM »
Well, my row is full and there's an empty seat in front of me.
I guess none of the above pays off.
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #2819 on: July 07, 2019, 06:18:10 AM »
CLE-FLL in July.

Who would fly such a route (except to participate in a bris)?
There's a reason I got the very last MIA-CLE seat tomorrow afternoon and that MIA-CLE is sold out tonight and tomorrow morning with just one seat left this afternoon.

But do you know the reason :)
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