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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1280 on: August 06, 2014, 03:08:53 PM »
Did Adam have a belly button?
Regarding #2 I once heard from a mashgiach that things were created in their complete form for example Adam was an adult and therefore if you were to cut open a tree it would have rings showing it was around for X amount of years even though it wasn't.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1281 on: August 06, 2014, 03:16:14 PM »
He may have been an adult without a belly button. The gemora says that things were created in adult form. Does that mean that in all aspects everything was as if the world had been functioning beforehand?
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1282 on: August 06, 2014, 03:18:37 PM »
No i meant sha'ar habechina where he talks about achieving emunah through observing the world and nature
Surely that would not include pondering how to reconcile faith to science. IMHO it is the exact opposite that is intended. Of course emuna is strengthened through observing nature, and hashems goodness to us.
כו. שְׂאוּ מָרוֹם עֵינֵיכֶם וּרְאוּ מִי בָרָא אֵלֶּה הַמּוֹצִיא בְמִסְפָּר צְבָאָם לְכֻלָּם בְּשֵׁם יִקְרָא מֵרֹב אוֹנִים וְאַמִּיץ כֹּחַ אִישׁ לֹא נֶעְדָּר
כז. לָמָּה תֹאמַר יַעֲקֹב וּתְדַבֵּר יִשְׂרָאֵל נִסְתְּרָה דַרְכִּי מֵיְהֹוָה וּמֵאֱלֹהַי מִשְׁפָּטִי יַעֲבוֹר:
כח. הֲלוֹא יָדַעְתָּ אִם לֹא שָׁמַעְתָּ אֱלֹהֵי עוֹלָם | יְהֹוָה בּוֹרֵא קְצוֹת הָאָרֶץ לֹא יִיעַף וְלֹא יִיגָע אֵין חֵקֶר לִתְבוּנָתוֹ:

It's all about the context! If one is looking to be a maamin, it's easy. If one is looking to be a kofer on the other hand, from the same area of proof for emuna (the awesomeness of nature), can be distorted to kefira. -via scientific interpretations and questions.
If one thinks that everything needs to be rationalized and comprehended by the feeble human mind, (-greek philosophy and modern science), there is no way he can reach real emmuna. Lots of this stuff is spiritual and cannot possibly be comprehended by the sechel.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1283 on: August 08, 2014, 11:06:08 AM »
I don't think you need to have the answer for carbon dating (i personally don't have such an interest in these things). But to dismiss carbon dating out of hand just because scientists don't acknowledge giants strikes me as silly, disingenuous and lacking intellectual honesty

+1

I subscribe to option 3--that time was elongated during creation due to the simple fact that the sun and its rotation wasn't created until mid-way through the 7 days.

The fact that some people seem to just shut off that part of the brain that prompts inquisitiveness, curiosity, and the ability to "raise questions", is particularly unfortunate, seeing we as a people have long been admired for such traits.

Nailed it:

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1284 on: August 08, 2014, 03:56:12 PM »
Sad or happy? You are about to pay a bill on evolve, and then realize that you just loaded all your gc in Walmart

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1285 on: August 08, 2014, 04:18:06 PM »
Sad or happy? You are about to pay a bill on evolve, and then realize that you just loaded all your gc in Walmart
How could you ever run out of GC's ?

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1286 on: August 08, 2014, 04:19:32 PM »
How could you ever run out of GC's ?
I did...

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1287 on: August 08, 2014, 04:20:45 PM »
How could you still get GC's?
FTFY

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1288 on: August 08, 2014, 04:22:33 PM »

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1289 on: August 08, 2014, 04:37:37 PM »

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1290 on: August 10, 2014, 01:00:23 PM »
I donated to Chai Lifeline in the past and probably will donate to them again in the future. I asked at least five times to be removed from their email list. Still receiving their emails. What is their problem?
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1291 on: August 10, 2014, 01:14:17 PM »
I donated to Chai Lifeline in the past and probably will donate to them again in the future. I asked at least five times to be removed from their email list. Still receiving their emails. What is their problem?
I had the same issue with other organizations, just "spam it"
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1292 on: August 10, 2014, 01:16:59 PM »
I had the same issue with other organizations, just "spam it"
I never had issues with reputable organizations. I was told by many that this one was reputable.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1293 on: August 10, 2014, 02:01:30 PM »
Did you hit unsubscribe from the bottom of the email? That worked for me.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1294 on: August 10, 2014, 02:02:29 PM »
Did you hit unsubscribe from the bottom of the email? That worked for me.
Several times.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1295 on: August 10, 2014, 02:07:17 PM »
That's very strange.
Especially since they use a third party sender (I think mailchimp or madmimi) which will usually unsubscribe you automatically and won't allow the sender to put you back on the list unless you manually opt in.
You can definitely spam or report it at this point and that should solve the issue.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1296 on: August 10, 2014, 02:20:11 PM »

I never had issues with reputable organizations. I was told by many that this one was reputable.
I have the same issue with twitter. I unsubscribed from their annoying suggestions several times and still get their  emails.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1297 on: August 10, 2014, 02:40:10 PM »
I have the same issue with twitter. I unsubscribed from their annoying suggestions several times and still get their  emails.
"report spam" it does wonders (in gmail)
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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1298 on: August 10, 2014, 06:24:51 PM »
An alternative that won't hurt the charity is to create a filter to have any email from that address/subject sent automatically to trash.

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Re: Random Posts For Non-Meshugeners
« Reply #1299 on: August 10, 2014, 07:04:59 PM »
An alternative that won't hurt the charity is to create a filter to have any email from that address/subject sent automatically to trash.
That's what I do for Twitter. With 20 Twitter Accounts....