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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2013, 10:59:02 AM »
I hope you didn't mean to call the Ramban, the SA, and the Rashba an Apikores, chas vashulum.

We're talking about being melagleg nowadays.
It's not like it's not a settled issue. Exactly how many gedolim can you find today that are against it? And yes, most rishonim and acharonim were for it. If you are against it, don't do it. Don't act like Satmar with the eiruv.
The opponents are your usual culprits. None with an abundance of yiras shamayim dictating their opposition.

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2013, 11:07:53 AM »

We're talking about being melagleg nowadays.
It's not like it's not a settled issue. Exactly how many gedolim can you find today that are against it? And yes, most rishonim and acharonim were for it. If you are against it, don't do it. Don't act like Satmar with the eiruv.
The opponents are your usual culprits. None with an abundance of yiras shamayim dictating their opposition.

What's your beef with Satmar and the Eruv?

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2013, 11:10:32 AM »
What's your beef with Satmar and the Eruv?

He means the eiruv rav

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2013, 11:11:41 AM »
What's your beef with Satmar and the Eruv?

Just shot from the top of my head an instance where a machlokes in halacha wasn't settled right away with everyone just following their rav.

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2013, 11:29:06 AM »

Just shot from the top of my head an instance where a machlokes in halacha wasn't settled right away with everyone just following their rav.

...then why don't you want people to follow their own Rav when it comes to Kaporos?

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2013, 11:38:28 AM »
...then why don't you want people to follow their own Rav when it comes to Kaporos?
Your Rov told you to attack people who DO do Kapparos?

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2013, 11:39:39 AM »

Your Rov told you to attack people who DO do Kapparos?

????

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2013, 11:40:53 AM »
...then why don't you want people to follow their own Rav when it comes to Kaporos?

Because going to the health department in every town isn't following the rav. I'm not talking about the people that just refrain doing it and don't mock this ancient minhag.

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2013, 11:42:04 AM »
????
Because going to the health department in every town isn't following the rav. I'm not talking about the people that just refrain doing it and don't mock this ancient minhag.

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2013, 11:43:28 AM »



So why doesn't he want people to follow their Rav?

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2013, 11:44:45 AM »
So why doesn't he want people to follow their Rav?
????
He does, he just wants them to let HIM follow HIS Rov...

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2013, 11:46:14 AM »

He does, he just wants them to let HIM follow HIS Rov...

Then why is he against acting like Satmar and the Eruv?

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2013, 05:23:58 AM »
Ridiculous!
The Jewish journal has a definite agenda.
The problem is that in this case is not just the usual suspects making issues but also members of the rcc and other frum people

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2013, 08:51:42 AM »
And the RCC also has an anti-Charedi agenda. They have stooped to new lows this year. Trying to be reform-lite.
huh?

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2013, 08:54:32 AM »
huh?

Sorry, I thought that that was the RCA.

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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2015, 01:52:39 PM »
Bump
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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
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Re: Boycott Kaporas?
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