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Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2012, 03:07:10 PM »

   I was there a couple of years ago and went to Michelstadt by train. I don't remember the exact train routing but when I went you took a train from the airport and then transferred to another small local train.

EDIT: go to the DB website http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query2.exe/en?getstop=1&S=&Z=&date=28.10.12&time=01%3A09&timesel=depart&ticket-information_advanced-search=  All the info is there.
 
Thanks, will keep it in mind for next time.

On that note, has anyone here ever ventured from Frankfurt to Mainz/Worms, where you have the Kevorim of such giants as Rabeinu Gershon, the Maharil, the Chavos Ya'ir, Maharam m'Rutenburg, as well as the"shul of Rashi"?

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Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2012, 03:12:18 PM »
Thanks, will keep it in mind for next time.

On that note, has anyone here ever ventured from Frankfurt to Mainz/Worms, where you have the Kevorim of such giants as Rabeinu Gershon, the Maharil, the Chavos Ya'ir, Maharam m'Rutenburg, as well as the"shul of Rashi"?
I did that combination in a day, it is very doable.

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Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2012, 03:14:29 PM »
Thanks, will keep it in mind for next time.

On that note, has anyone here ever ventured from Frankfurt to Mainz/Worms, where you have the Kevorim of such giants as Rabeinu Gershon, the Maharil, the Chavos Ya'ir, Maharam m'Rutenburg, as well as the"shul of Rashi"?


Yes I've done it. What do you want to know?

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Re: Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2012, 03:29:35 PM »

Yes I've done it. What do you want to know?
By train also?

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Re: Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2012, 06:13:25 PM »
By train also?


Yup. In Worms the train station is a easy 10 minute walk to Rashi's Shul and about 5 minutes to the Bais Olam. The organization that runs Rashi's shul is called Rashi House, google it to see their hours of operation before you go. They also sell a small booklet on the Worms Bais Haolam which is helpful for finding Kevarim. All in all, a easy, simple, and inexpensive visit.

In Mainz things are a bit more complicated. The times I was there I needed to first go to the Jewish Center to get a key for the Bais Olam (and it takes time to find the Jewish Center), and its about a 10 minute walk from the train station. Then you take a cab or bus (cab is much easier) to the Bais Olam (about a 10 minute ride tops) and then have to go back to the Jewish Center to return your key. I remember having to leave a deposit for a key and there was also a 20 Euro charge for going to the Bais Olam,they told me it was a tax imposed by the city council. It also takes some work to find the Kevor of Rabbeinu Gershon and other Gedolim, because there is no map provided and the matzavehs are pretty worn out.

In Frankfurt I went to the old Bais Haolam which I believe is located right next to the Jewish Museum or some big institution like that. I had to leave my passport as a deposit for the key.


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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2012, 07:26:39 PM »
How far is the Bais Hachayim in Frankfurt from the airport and who's buried there?
How far is mainz From frankfurt?
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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2012, 08:18:34 PM »
How far is the Bais Hachayim in Frankfurt from the airport and who's buried there?
How far is mainz From frankfurt?
Thanks
GL

1) I would say about 20 minutes, maybe a bit more. I'm pretty sure the Pnei Yeshoua and the Chasam Sofer's Rebbe (R' Noson Adler?) are buried there, among other important people. The kevarim go back to the 1200's.
FYI Rav Samson Rafael Hirsch is buried in the new cemetery.

2) Mainz is about 45 minutes by train from Frankfurt.

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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2012, 08:50:10 PM »
who's buried there?
-very old cemetery Battonstrasse, r noson adler (talmid of pnei yehoshua, rebbi of chasam sofer)d.1800, r' yakov falk the pnei yehoshua d.1756, Rabbi Pinchas Halevi Horowitz (haflaah) d. 1805, chasam sofer's mother, The key may be obtained at the Museum Judengasse
-old cemetery, Rat-Beil-Strasse 10 (near Near Burgerhospital), R' Shamshon b'Refoel Hirsch d.1888,  r yisroel perlow stoliner rebbe (aka "the frankfurter" or the yenuka)

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Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2012, 02:16:01 AM »

Yup. In Worms the train station is a easy 10 minute walk to Rashi's Shul and about 5 minutes to the Bais Olam. The organization that runs Rashi's shul is called Rashi House, google it to see their hours of operation before you go. They also sell a small booklet on the Worms Bais Haolam which is helpful for finding Kevarim. All in all, a easy, simple, and inexpensive visit.

In Mainz things are a bit more complicated. The times I was there I needed to first go to the Jewish Center to get a key for the Bais Olam (and it takes time to find the Jewish Center), and its about a 10 minute walk from the train station. Then you take a cab or bus (cab is much easier) to the Bais Olam (about a 10 minute ride tops) and then have to go back to the Jewish Center to return your key. I remember having to leave a deposit for a key and there was also a 20 Euro charge for going to the Bais Olam,they told me it was a tax imposed by the city council. It also takes some work to find the Kevor of Rabbeinu Gershon and other Gedolim, because there is no map provided and the matzavehs are pretty worn out.

In Frankfurt I went to the old Bais Haolam which I believe is located right next to the Jewish Museum or some big institution like that. I had to leave my passport as a deposit for the key.


If you have any more question feel free to ask.
Thank you so much for such a detailed report!  20€ to get in to the cemetery?!  Chutzpah of these Germans, do they have some gall!

When you say to take a train to Worms, Mainz, Michelstadt..., are you referring to the central station (hbf) of that respective city?  Or to a specific station?


How far is the Bais Hachayim in Frankfurt from the airport and who's buried there?
Thanks
GL
Very close, you take 1 or maximum 2 (depends which train you take) local trains straight from the airport to Konstablerwache, and from there it's a very short walk.  I didn't have much success asking people where Battonstrasse is (thats the street of the cemetery) after exiting the train station, however if you ask people where the Jewish museum (frankfurt judengasse museum) is, more people may know.

Just make sure you come during museum hours, otherwise you can't get into the cemetery which is right outside the museum.

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Re: Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2012, 02:25:25 PM »
Thank you so much for such a detailed report!  20 to get in to the cemetery?!  Chutzpah of these Germans, do they have some gall!

When you say to take a train to Worms, Mainz, Michelstadt..., are you referring to the central station (hbf) of that respective city?  Or to a specific station?


Yes, I mean the main train station. In Worms and Michelstadt as far as I remember there is only one train station, but in Mainz there is another one before the main one. It could be that it would be shorter if you get off at the other Mainz station but my experience is only getting off at the main one.

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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2013, 06:33:23 PM »
Anything to do in frankfurt with a 4 hr stop over, no Kevarim (were Kohanim)????

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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2013, 07:25:55 PM »
Anything to do in frankfurt with a 4 hr stop over, no Kevarim (were Kohanim)????
The Jewish Museum?
Though, considering the size of FRA, it might be risky -time wise.

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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2013, 07:35:41 PM »
The Jewish Museum?
Though, considering the size of FRA, it might be risky -time wise.
neither of them are worth the shlep in a 4 hr stop

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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2013, 07:40:01 PM »
neither of them are worth the shlep in a 4 hr stop
Makes sense, I guess by the time you get there you'd already have to return..

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Re: Frankfurt Master Thread
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2013, 03:47:02 AM »
I just want to get out of the airport.... nowhere to go in 4 hrs??