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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2010, 11:50:44 AM »
I think it's probably for one pair, but they want you to think it might be for two, shame on them for not specifying.

What makes you think that they are trying to scam you?
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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2010, 11:52:37 AM »
During Elul most places usually have a special so shop around.

Consider checking tefillin before or after Elul, since Elul is rush hour and they might not do a thorough job... Unless you can speak to the guy who's doing it and somehow make sure that he won't rush through them.
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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2010, 11:59:09 AM »
Consider checking tefillin before or after Elul, since Elul is rush hour and they might not do a thorough job... Unless you can speak to the guy who's doing it and somehow make sure that he won't rush through them.
A point to consider. However some want their tefillin checked specifically in Elul.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2010, 12:03:07 PM »
A point to consider. However some want their tefillin checked specifically in Elul.
No doubt. Elul is the most propicious time, but it's also high season. So people gotta weight their options...
If someone wants to be "yotze lechol hadayos" they can check it twice... :)
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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2010, 01:10:13 PM »
What makes you think that they are trying to scam you?

Not scam, per-se. I'm suggesting they might be using ambiguity to get you in the door.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2010, 01:29:11 PM »
Not scam, per-se. I'm suggesting they might be using ambiguity to get you in the door.
When you see a price for challah would you also think the same thing...everyone has two for lechem mishna...

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2010, 01:55:54 PM »
When you see a price for challah would you also think the same thing...everyone has two for lechem mishna...

Point noted. I'm just saying they could have specified.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2010, 02:41:17 PM »
When you see a price for challah would you also think the same thing...everyone has two for lechem mishna...

Nice analogy.
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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2010, 08:38:36 PM »
When you see a price for challah would you also think the same thing...everyone has two for lechem mishna...
Not a good analogy.
In Crown heights just about everybody has two pairs of tefillin and gives both in together to get checked.

when people buy challah they buy based on how much will get eaten, not based on pairs of lechem mishna.

In short: in Crown Heights people check tefillin in pairs, people do not buy challah in pairs.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2010, 09:45:25 PM »
Not a good analogy.
In Crown heights just about everybody has two pairs of tefillin and gives both in together to get checked.

when people buy challah they buy based on how much will get eaten, not based on pairs of lechem mishna.

In short: in Crown Heights people check tefillin in pairs, people do not buy challah in pairs.

+1

I can see both sides of the argument. Either way, disclosure in advertising is the high road that any upstanding advertiser should take (IMHO).

There's an additional ambiguity with tefillin vs. mezuzah/challah where tefillin (like, lehavdil, pants) is already plural, so it's harder to distinguish between one pair or two.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2010, 02:36:02 PM »
Well, apparently I was wrong. it's $55 a pair at Oraita...

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2010, 04:36:11 PM »
Well, apparently I was wrong. it's $55 a pair at Oraita...
A pair as in rosh/yad or rashi/rt?
This can get confusing!
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2010, 05:15:17 PM »
A pair as in rosh/yad or rashi/rt?
This can get confusing!

Precisely my point. But I think he means a pair as in yad/rosh.

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2010, 08:46:49 PM »
Precisely my point. But I think he means a pair as in yad/rosh.
Yup.
I don't think I've ever heard a pair of tefillin referring to Rashi/RT...

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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2010, 10:52:42 PM »
Yup.
I don't think I've ever heard a pair of tefillin referring to Rashi/RT...
That would be a pair of pairs... ;)
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Re: Looking to get my tefillin refurbished (and checked) in Crown HEights
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2010, 04:28:47 AM »
1 box she'll yad/rosh = Tfilo

1 pair (2 boxes) yad & rosh = Tfillin

2 pairs = Tfillin

Yes, its confusing.