Brooklyn Restaurants

[Z56]

So upside and burger+q are greasy?

deep fried food

i personally dont like burger Q ambiance ( feels like a lunch room to me)

[shmielyosef]

deep fried food

i personally dont like burger Q ambiance ( feels like a lunch room to me)

Didn't find the food to have that fast food greasy feel... I guess my standards are lower
I do hear what you're saying about teh ambiance though

[Z56]

Didn't find the food to have that fast food greasy feel... I guess my standards are lower
I do hear what you're saying about teh ambiance though

FAST FOOD isnt the best for your system.

[shmielyosef]

FAST FOOD isnt the best for your system.

Where in my reply do u see me suggesting something of the sort??

[S209]

FAST FOOD isnt the best for your system.

Hey, Dr. Atkins wouldn’t necessarily agree with you..

[ad120]

Friend in town for London.
I was goin to go to Izzy's but I then realized that the Hasgacha is under the OK. That will not be good enough for him.
Not looking to spend a lot of money.
Suggestions?
Anywhere in Brooklyn is okay.

[Moshe123]

Friend in town for London.
I was goin to go to Izzy's but I then realized that the Hasgacha is under the OK. That will not be good enough for him.
Not looking to spend a lot of money.
Suggestions?
Anywhere in Brooklyn is okay.

By the way, what's the incentive for a restaurant with such a limited menu as Izzy's to not have a better hashgacha? I once saw a delivery there and at least part of the order was from Solomon's which is as good as it gets in the hashgacha on the meat itself.

I know that OK is next door and all the reasons to have them, but why not add another more widely accepted hashgacha?

[thaber]

Friend in town for London.
I was goin to go to Izzy's but I then realized that the Hasgacha is under the OK. That will not be good enough for him.
Not looking to spend a lot of money.
Suggestions?
Anywhere in Brooklyn is okay.

By the way, what's the incentive for a restaurant with such a limited menu as Izzy's to not have a better hashgacha? I once saw a delivery there and at least part of the order was from Solomon's which is as good as it gets in the hashgacha on the meat itself.

I know that OK is next door and all the reasons to have them, but why not add another more widely accepted hashgacha?

I'm confused. Why are we assuming OK is a second rate hashgocha?

[gubevo18]

I'm confused. Why are we assuming OK is a second rate hashgocha?

well for the chasidim (I mean the BP and Williamsburg type not CH) they don't consider ok a "heimishe" hashgocha so it doesn't matter if it's better or worse in reality, they won't eat a non heimishe hashgacha.

For everyone else (barring those who won't eat from lubavitcher hashgochos) ok is good albeit probably not as good as ou when it comes to restaurants.

Personally I would rely on them 100%

[Matovu]

well for the chasidim (I mean the BP and Williamsburg type not CH) they don't consider ok a "heimishe" hashgocha so it doesn't matter if it's better or worse in reality, they won't eat a non heimishe hashgacha.

For everyone else (barring those who won't eat from lubavitcher hashgochos) ok is good albeit probably not as good as ou when it comes to restaurants.

Personally I would rely on them 100%

OK is chasidish !!!
The bias is because there's no yiddish words, and the look is similar to OU....

But this is really a top tier acceptable hashgacaha.

[grodnoking]

OK is chasidish !!!
The bias is because there's no yiddish words, and the look is similar to OU....

But this is really a top tier acceptable hashgacaha.

OK is lubavitch, lubavitch are chasidim, but lubavitch are not haimish.

Anyways, I try not to eat any "industrial" hechsher for restaurants, as (of a few years ago at least) they don't have the same amount of overwatch as a local hechsher. It can have changed, I don't know; does anyone know if they have local branches to deal with their restaurants (like a set of mashkiachim who live in Brooklyn who make rounds of Brooklyn restaurants and have complete control of what goes on)?

[ad120]

I'm confused. Why are we assuming OK is a second rate hashgocha?

OK is chasidish !!!
The bias is because there's no yiddish words, and the look is similar to OU....

But this is really a top tier acceptable hashgacaha.

OK is lubavitch, lubavitch are chasidim, but lubavitch are not haimish.

Anyways, I try not to eat any "industrial" hechsher for restaurants, as (of a few years ago at least) they don't have the same amount of overwatch as a local hechsher. It can have changed, I don't know; does anyone know if they have local branches to deal with their restaurants (like a set of mashkiachim who live in Brooklyn who make rounds of Brooklyn restaurants and have complete control of what goes on)?

All of this is irrelevant. in my case He will not eat OK. A
Any suggestions for a restaurant with a HEIMISHE HASHGACHA ?
Not looking to spend money.

[ChAiM'l]

All of this is irrelevant. in my case He will not eat OK. A
Any suggestions for a restaurant with a HEIMISHE HASHGACHA ?
Not looking to spend money.

Sub express

[henche]

Sub express

Get a frap

[henche]

All of this is irrelevant. in my case He will not eat OK. A
Any suggestions for a restaurant with a HEIMISHE HASHGACHA ?
Not looking to spend money.

He's from London, what does he know from the ok? He asked u,and you told him not to eat ok. So we're telling you that's ridiculous and you should eat ok and he should also

[henche]

Upside berger vs bergers and q?

What to get at eaches

[sillypainter]

Upside berger vs bergers and q?

What to get at eaches

No answer for you, but I can't resist.... Don't they teach how to spell burger correctly in law school? :-)

[thaber]

OK is lubavitch, lubavitch are chasidim, but lubavitch are not haimish.

Anyways, I try not to eat any "industrial" hechsher for restaurants, as (of a few years ago at least) they don't have the same amount of overwatch as a local hechsher. It can have changed, I don't know; does anyone know if they have local branches to deal with their restaurants (like a set of mashkiachim who live in Brooklyn who make rounds of Brooklyn restaurants and have complete control of what goes on)?

That's silly. OK and OU have just as much oversight in restaurants as local hashgocha and have dedicated mashgiachim for the restaurants, either temidi or oversight depending on many factors, but their policies are the same or better than hashgocha with hebrew letters.
If you come to LA make sure to bring your own food. Most restaurants and take out places here are OK. the rest are RCC and they don't have Yiddish letters in their name.

[gubevo18]

That's silly. OK and OU have just as much oversight in restaurants as local hashgocha and have dedicated mashgiachim for the restaurants, either temidi or oversight depending on many factors, but their policies are the same or better than hashgocha with hebrew letters.
If you come to LA make sure to bring your own food. Most restaurants and take out places here are OK. the rest are RCC and they don't have Yiddish letters in their name.

+1
Its mistaken to believe that simply because one is local and the other is national the local one will be better. What makes a hashgocha good is if they are.. well, good.


This is not the forum to have the discussion about the false belief of heimishe hashgachos being better. so I'll leave it at that. we can move it over to the kashrus forum if you want.

[Yehuda57]

OK is lubavitch, lubavitch are chasidim, but lubavitch are not haimish.

Anyways, I try not to eat any "industrial" hechsher for restaurants, as (of a few years ago at least) they don't have the same amount of overwatch as a local hechsher. It can have changed, I don't know; does anyone know if they have local branches to deal with their restaurants (like a set of mashkiachim who live in Brooklyn who make rounds of Brooklyn restaurants and have complete control of what goes on)?

OK is run by Lubavitcher Chassidim, they are not a "Lubavitch" hechsher. Ironically, I don't eat Izzy's because they aren't Lubavitch*, and for others apparently they are Lubavitch, which is not "heimish" enough (whatever that means).

I'm not saying this to disparage Izzy's or the OK, they are both top notch. I eat everything else OK besides meat, and even the meat has nothing to do with the quality of the kashrus. I'm just saying this to point out the decisions people make or so often for misguided reasons. See the kashrus thread to see why being "industrial" is more a maaleh than a chisaron.

On what basis do you say that a "local hashgacha" has more supervision?
On what basis do you think a "local" hashgacha is any more or less "industrious" than another?
OK is next door to Izzy's. Is that not "local"?

Trying to make blanket rules for hashgachos is really not a helpful way to go about things.