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« Last edited by Joeymc on August 06, 2020, 05:14:51 PM »

Poll

What shud the Baby Present be?

Personalized Chitas for each baby
12 (30%)
Personalized Chitas for the boys, bracelets for the girls
8 (20%)
Personalized bathrobes
13 (32.5%)
Other - Please write below
7 (17.5%)

Total Members Voted: 39

Author Topic: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)  (Read 119778 times)

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #600 on: August 07, 2020, 08:31:09 AM »
My feelings about a chitas are that it would be similar to receiving a personalized siddur for an infant. I know that I would consider it strange for something that won't be able to be used for at least six years. I imagine it is longer before they are learning tanya from it. After all that time it loses its meaning.

At the end of the day I am fine with whatever everyone decides though.
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #601 on: August 07, 2020, 08:36:48 AM »
My feelings about a chitas are that it would be similar to receiving a personalized siddur for an infant. I know that I would consider it strange for something that won't be able to be used for at least six years. I imagine it is longer before they are learning tanya from it. After all that time it loses its meaning.

At the end of the day I am fine with whatever everyone decides though.
+1

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #602 on: August 07, 2020, 08:42:05 AM »
Should we ask a mod to revamp the poll (yet again) so that we can have a second round of voting with just the first two options?

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #603 on: August 07, 2020, 08:43:38 AM »
My feelings about a chitas are that it would be similar to receiving a personalized siddur for an infant. I know that I would consider it strange for something that won't be able to be used for at least six years. I imagine it is longer before they are learning tanya from it. After all that time it loses its meaning.

At the end of the day I am fine with whatever everyone decides though.

Except that you're unaware of https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16075&st=&pgnum=418&hilite=

That being said I think a personalized צדקה פושקע could last much longer and be used sooner by the child himself. Though if you really want to get good mileage out of said pushka you need to make sure it can read magnetic stripes, chips and contactless cards.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2020, 09:03:57 AM by ExGingi »
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #604 on: August 07, 2020, 09:01:58 AM »
Except that you're unaware of https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16075&st=&pgnum=418&hilite=

That being said I think a personalized צדקה פושקע could last much longer and be used sooner by the child himself.
but that’s reading age?  Wouldn’t be for a while either...

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #605 on: August 07, 2020, 09:03:14 AM »
Except that you're unaware of https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16075&st=&pgnum=418&hilite=

That being said I think a personalized צדקה פושקע could last much longer and be used sooner by the child himself.
Thats quite a lot of money for a pushka! Do you mean like a silver one or something

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #606 on: August 07, 2020, 09:05:42 AM »
No offense to anyone above but IMO we should just get a normal baby present. No books no pushkas or any other religious articles. Just a good old normal baby present. Maybe I’m just not getting Chabad culture? Is it standard to buy these things as baby gifts?

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #607 on: August 07, 2020, 09:07:06 AM »
Thats quite a lot of money for a pushka! Do you mean like a silver one or something
Try ordering a custom made high quality wood crafted pushka (with all the required readers, I forgot to mention Apple Pay, Google Pay and Samsung Pay in addition to all the above, with expansion slots for future technology upgrades).
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #608 on: August 07, 2020, 09:08:02 AM »
Except that you're unaware of https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16075&st=&pgnum=418&hilite=

That being said I think a personalized צדקה פושקע could last much longer and be used sooner by the child himself. Though if you really want to get good mileage out of said pushka you need to make sure it can read magnetic stripes, chips and contactless cards.

I was unaware of that, but the concept is a fairly obvious one but doesn't change much of what I wrote. Maybe it is my unfamiliarity with Lubavitch minhagim. To me that would be something I would want to be doing as a parent.

I'm really happy with whatever we do since "it is the thought that counts" so I will bow out now.
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #609 on: August 07, 2020, 09:09:15 AM »
No offense to anyone above but IMO we should just get a normal baby present. No books no pushkas or any other religious articles. Just a good old normal baby present. Maybe I’m just not getting Chabad culture? Is it standard to buy these things as baby gifts?

The question is whether you're giving a gift to the kid or to his parents. "Standard" gifts are for parents, a pushka, a siddur or anything like that is for the kid.
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #610 on: August 07, 2020, 09:46:35 AM »
So basically, blankets are out and bathrobes are also.

Are hooded towels different or do they also fall into the same category?
Hard to answer that without knowing why they are out
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #611 on: August 07, 2020, 09:47:05 AM »
No offense to anyone above but IMO we should just get a normal baby present. No books no pushkas or any other religious articles. Just a good old normal baby present. Maybe I’m just not getting Chabad culture? Is it standard to buy these things as baby gifts?
I agree, all the money is in. Call a baby store say we need 4 presents and this is our budget. I'm pretty sure to Dan and JJ its the thought that counts and not the actual present. My .02

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #612 on: August 07, 2020, 09:53:17 AM »
The gift suggestions of chitas and bracelets were made by someone who knows both families, and believes that those suggestions would be appreciated.

They are not just pulled out of a hat.

Feel free to PM for specifics.

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #613 on: August 07, 2020, 09:56:35 AM »
My humble .02.
 Find (ask someone in Cleveland where heimish people shop) a nice upscale boutique clothing store (either babies or women) store in Cleveland, purchase a gift certificate and let Dan's wife choose. ....Happy wife=happy life

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #614 on: August 07, 2020, 10:08:21 AM »
I agree, all the money is in. Call a baby store say we need 4 presents and this is our budget. I'm pretty sure to Dan and JJ its the thought that counts and not the actual present. My .02
Adding my .02
Dan is special to us.  We have hakaras hatov.  If we want to do something special for him and Mimi, it has to be something that they wouldn't have bought themselves ot something that they haven't bought yet, but wanted.  Do you really think giving a gift certificate is meaningful and efficient?  The amount of a VGC would be pennies to them; a gift certificate at a particular store will force them to go to that store versus going to any store they choose, whenever they want; you think they don't have magnatiles with three kids already??  I think someone should get in touch with someone who knows them and ask what is being said outside of ddf doors (Bubby Eleff, maybe?)  She will know both families. 

If we don't go that route, something personalized is always appreciated.  Baby's name on a knitted or softie blanket.  Little name bracelets for the two girl JJ babies.  The third and Dan's?  Bathrobes with their Hebrew names embroidered (in a toddler floor length size to last a while)
Still standing by my post. They can buy whatever they want.  They don't need our gift certificate.  Something special, different, ie personalized, can be appreciated.  A blanket with the name printed 50 times or something with the Hebrew names will be special to parents and kids.  I don[t know why that was nixed.  A floor length bathrobe in a toddler size would last a few years since it essentially acts as a hooded towel for an infant.  A hooded towel, indeed, would last even longer as it can be used as a real towel forever .  I actually like that idea better than my bathrobe idea.  Parents on this thread who use it love it.  A personalized Chitas for all is also a forever gift if they don't have already.  Bubby Eleff would have told us if they had.

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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #616 on: August 07, 2020, 10:15:08 AM »


Hard to answer that without knowing why they are out



I wouldn't make that decision against the public vote. If anything, I would contact the same person who recommended the Chitas and bracelets (anyone could PM for that person's identity) and see what they say.

Should I do that?

@Yo ssi



The gift suggestions of chitas and bracelets were made by someone who knows both families, and believes that those suggestions would be appreciated.

They are not just pulled out of a hat.

Feel free to PM for specifics.

PM @YitzyS for more info
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #617 on: August 07, 2020, 11:27:29 AM »
I was unaware of that, but the concept is a fairly obvious one but doesn't change much of what I wrote. Maybe it is my unfamiliarity with Lubavitch minhagim. To me that would be something I would want to be doing as a parent.

I'm really happy with whatever we do since "it is the thought that counts" so I will bow out now.

Couldn't agree more.

And all jokes aside regarding a pushka, if you think you have more money than what a nice durable pushka would be, you can supplement with rolls of quarters for the kid to actually use for giving tzedaka, and maybe even an embroidered change pouch to keep tzedaka handy.

But to requote a friend
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I'm really happy with whatever we do since "it is the thought that counts" so I will bow out now.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #618 on: August 11, 2020, 11:29:27 AM »
How about booking a photo shoot with some nice prints?
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Re: {ALIVE AGAIN} Baby Present for Dan: (DAN/JJ DO NOT READ THIS THREAD)
« Reply #619 on: August 11, 2020, 12:12:18 PM »
How about booking a photo shoot with some nice prints?
How about we actually get them a present (who cares what) and we lock this thread???