Master Thread of Pet Peeves

[ExGingi]

Having 10 people (and growing) waiting for a minyan to start but no-one is willing to go to the Omud. The reward for this ends up being that someone comes and gladly goes to the Omud and has a combination of all the annoyances possible (mentioned in this thread and elsewhere) for a Shliach Tzibbur.

[aygart]

Having 10 people (and growing) waiting for a minyan to start but no-one is willing to go to the Omud. The reward for this ends up being that someone comes and gladly goes to the Omud and has a combination of all the annoyances possible (mentioned in this thread and elsewhere) for a Shliach Tzibbur.

but not a single person there has a right to complain. Someone who is unwilling to go himself can't complain about the one who did. That is one of my pet peeves.

[avadah]

The guy who harasses you to daven for the amud but when you tell him to go up flatly refuses.

[ExGingi]

but not a single person there has a right to complain. Someone who is unwilling to go himself can't complain about the one who did. That is one of my pet peeves.

Exactly. That is why I called it a REWARD.

Just like the famous saying about getting the government we deserve, same goes for this Shliach Tzibbur.

[aygart]

Exactly. That is why I called it a REWARD.

but who is there to complain about people not going up who didn't participate? There are some cases but rare.

[ExGingi]

And while on the topic, I will quote a poem that my uncle made up when he ended serving his 11 month sentence, which he shared with me at the onset of mine:

You're too fast,
You're too slow,
You're too loud,
You're too low!

[avadah]

And while on the topic, I will quote a poem that my uncle made up when he ended serving his 11 month sentence, which he shared with me at the onset of mine:

You're too fast,
You're too slow,
You're too loud,
You're too low!

You pronounced  this word wrong.
You're shmona esrei is too long.
The nusach doesn't go that way.
11 months of this, hip hip hooray!

[aygart]

And while on the topic, I will quote a poem that my uncle made up when he ended serving his 11 month sentence, which he shared with me at the onset of mine:

You're too fast,
You're too slow,
You're too loud,
You're too low!

that is a big advantage of davening in a minyan where there is a Rov or where there is a set pace

[avadah]

Or a shteibel where you could really do what  you  want.

[Sam Finkelstein]

that is a big advantage of davening in a minyan where there is a Rov or where there is a set pace

Overrated.

[grodnoking]

Having 10 people (and growing) waiting for a minyan to start but no-one is willing to go to the Omud. The reward for this ends up being that someone comes and gladly goes to the Omud and has a combination of all the annoyances possible (mentioned in this thread and elsewhere) for a Shliach Tzibbur.

The regret I have after saying no and "that" guy goes up...

[aygart]

Overrated.

I find it helps a lot. Can still get complaints but once I answer that I kept to the times the Rov set there is not much more they can say.

[churnbabychurn]

that is a big advantage of davening in a minyan where there is a Rov or where there is a set pace

Set paces. - Another pet peeve.

You can have a set pace. Sometimes it's just ridiculous.
17 ppl in the minyan late at night shouldn't be the same pace as 150 ppl at 9pm

[Sam Finkelstein]

I find it helps a lot. Can still get complaints but once I answer that I kept to the times the Rov set there is not much more they can say.

Of course. I mean from the congregant's perspective. And in a Shul with more than one, it can get annoying when only the "slower" one is there.

[aygart]

Set paces. - Another pet peeve.

You can have a set pace. Sometimes it's just ridiculous.
17 ppl in the minyan late at night shouldn't be the same pace as 150 ppl at 9pm

why does the number of people make a difference?

[grodnoking]

Why there is no thread about what people find pleasant.

The reason I didn't make one is because I cant find a word like pet peave to use. "Master Thread of Things People Find Pleasant"?

[churnbabychurn]

why does the number of people make a difference?

If 90% are ready for kaddish it's a tircha detziburah to wait for two guys

[aygart]

If 90% are ready for kaddish it's a tircha detziburah to wait for two guys

If the shul has a set pace based on its Rov or members then it is not waiting for 2 people but to give them the amount of time they should expect in that shul. As an aside, when there is a set pace it usually came as a response to some who just went too fast. Before the Rov set a pace in West Gate there was an issue that boys were having contests who can "get through" mariv faster. It took them longer to say the end of the brocha out loud than it took them for the whole brocha until then since for that line they had to actually say every word. The set pace there is a response to that.

[good sam]

Why there is no thread about what people find pleasant.

The reason I didn't make one is because I cant find a word like pet peave to use. "Master Thread of Things People Find Pleasant"?

Booooring

[Dr Moose]

When flying on a morning flight and the person next to the window has the shades open. Or any time of the day really. Though only in the morning it's my pet peeve.