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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2760 on: September 13, 2018, 01:47:41 PM »
All religions consider theirs's the one true religion. If your religion can't respect another religion that says volumes.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2761 on: September 13, 2018, 01:49:11 PM »
You realize that from our perspective JC was a heretic.
Also of note is that Christians, in the name of their religion, persecuted Jews since about the time Christianity started. (Not to dismiss the persecution of Christians because of their beliefs.)
I use 'Xmas' since I don't want to honor JC.  Not to disrespect fine, believing people like yourself.

See above, you're using his name just the same.

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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2762 on: September 13, 2018, 02:14:26 PM »
When my wife puts everything on the top shelve of the fridge, crowding it up when there is plenty of space on other shelves.

and When my wife does not use up the back part of the fridge.

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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2763 on: September 13, 2018, 02:22:58 PM »
When my wife puts everything on the top shelve of the fridge, crowding it up when there is plenty of space on other shelves.

and When my wife does not use up the back part of the fridge.

Its precious real estate:)
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2764 on: September 13, 2018, 02:23:17 PM »
When out has been used by many who adhere to that religion for many years it is difficult to see how using the term is disrespectful to the religion, although I do understand why it would bother you.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2765 on: September 13, 2018, 02:24:46 PM »
only fact i see is that CM is offended

no need for an offense.

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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2766 on: September 13, 2018, 02:34:18 PM »
When out has been used by many who adhere to that religion for many years it is difficult to see how using the term is disrespectful to the religion, although I do understand why it would bother you.
It is disrespecting G-d. The same way as saying Thank X with X representing G-d.
Still waiting for an answer to my question.
Do you write Thank X?
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2767 on: September 13, 2018, 02:51:21 PM »
All religions consider theirs's the one true religion. If your religion can't respect another religion that says volumes.

And what would you say if using a certain term used by another religion, would be considered heretic by your own?

If for example, some eastern religion would be called by a name that meant "the religion of the only true god" and would refer to something other than G-d, would you be ok calling it such?
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2768 on: September 13, 2018, 03:02:32 PM »
And what would you say if using a certain term used by another religion, would be considered heretic by your own?

If for example, some eastern religion would be called by a name that meant "the religion of the only true god" and would refer to something other than G-d, would you be ok calling it such?
Please give me an example of a word I would not use.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2769 on: September 13, 2018, 03:03:48 PM »
It is disrespecting G-d. The same way as saying Thank X with X representing G-d.
Still waiting for an answer to my question.
This seems to be more of a sensitivity of yours than the general public.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2770 on: September 13, 2018, 03:07:34 PM »
This seems to be more of a sensitivity of yours than the general public.
That can be said about most religions.
Still waiting for my answer. You really do have problems with honest discussions.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2771 on: September 13, 2018, 03:33:48 PM »
All religions consider theirs's the one true religion. If your religion can't respect another religion that says volumes.

I am not a Rabbi, so I can't speak to Jewish law in this regard, neither can I speak on behalf of anyone else here. However, I don't believe this has anything to do with respect; it's about taking extra care avoiding even the tiniest appearance of heresy.

A human being called a God is heresy according to Judaism. So while no one has a problem or issue with any holidays or anyone's celebration of said holidays, some won't even mention the name of an "idol", especially in an honorary way, which would amount to blasphemy in a small way. The same people would have no issue saying Easter, Lent or Ramadan, neither would they avoid saying names like Muhammad, Paul or Peter.

I understand that hearing someone say that calling your God by his name is heresy may be offensive to you. By the same toke, expecting others to use a word or phrase they deem heretic to their beliefs would be equally offensive, at the very least.

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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2772 on: September 13, 2018, 03:40:20 PM »
I am not a Rabbi, so I can't speak to Jewish law in this regard, neither can I speak on behalf of anyone else here. However, I don't believe this has anything to do with respect; it's about taking extra care avoiding even the tiniest appearance of heresy.

A human being called a God is heresy according to Judaism. So while no one has a problem or issue with any holidays or anyone's celebration of said holidays, some won't even mention the name of an "idol", especially in an honorary way, which would amount to blasphemy in a small way. The same people would have no issue saying Easter, Lent or Ramadan, neither would they avoid saying names like Muhammad, Paul or Peter.

I understand that hearing someone say that calling your God by his name is heresy may be offensive to you. By the same toke, expecting others to use a word or phrase they deem heretic to their beliefs would be equally offensive, at the very least.
I am confused. When you say "Christmas" you are saying Jesus Christ is G-d?
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2773 on: September 13, 2018, 03:46:18 PM »
I am confused. When you say "Christmas" you are saying Jesus Christ is G-d?
You are saying the name of someone considered a God by many.

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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2774 on: September 13, 2018, 03:47:53 PM »
I am confused. When you say "Christmas" you are saying Jesus Christ is G-d?

No. But the term does mean Messiah. I believe I've quoted Maimonides before on this.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2775 on: September 13, 2018, 03:51:01 PM »
You are saying the name of someone considered a God by many.
Isn't the important thing and the only thing that matters is what you believe?
You said many have no problem with saying "Easter". So they have no issue with a word that celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ but they draw the line at celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ? 
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2776 on: September 13, 2018, 03:52:53 PM »
But the term does mean Messiah.
Not to you it doesn't. Christmas does not mean Messiah.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2777 on: September 13, 2018, 04:17:07 PM »
That can be said about most religions.
Still waiting for my answer. You really do have problems with honest discussions.
It's not like you answer every question asked of you
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2778 on: September 13, 2018, 04:21:33 PM »
It's not like you answer every question asked of you
It is a simple question. Why not show me the same curtesy I showed you by answering the simple question you asked? Are you so dishonest that you will not answer any question that doesn't support your argument 100%.
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Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves
« Reply #2779 on: September 13, 2018, 04:44:39 PM »
Not to you it doesn't. Christmas does not mean Messiah.

What does it mean? I am talking about literal translation.
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