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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2013, 09:26:33 AM »
Medicaid will be expanded in many states.
But will it have any affect in the states that currently have it?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2013, 09:44:46 AM »
But will it have any affect in the states that currently have it?
Every state already 'has' Medicaid. The program is jointly funded by the federal government and the states, but the states essentially decide how to administer it. So different states can have different eligibility requirements and use different health insurance providers to actually provide the coverage.

ObamaCare was supposed to significantly expand who the states would be required to accept in order to get the federal funding, while also increasing the amount the federal government gives the states for the program. The Supreme Court though ruled that even if a state doesn't follow the new eligibility rules, they still get the original lower amount of federal funding. Because of this, some of the states will be 'participating' (accepting more people for Medicaid) and other will not. See this map for which states are and which aren't.

ETA - The map is not completely up to date, but each of the states listed there as 'leaning' ended up going the way they leaned. Of the 'pursuing alternative model' states, Iowa and Arkansas are listed as expanding, while Indiana and Tennessee are not. This is all according to medicaid.gov.
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2013, 10:03:04 AM »
Every state already 'has' Medicaid. The program is jointly funded by the federal government and the states, but the states essentially decide how to administer it. So different states can have different eligibility requirements and use different health insurance providers to actually provide the coverage.

ObamaCare was supposed to significantly expand who the states would be required to accept in order to get the federal funding, while also increasing the amount the federal government gives the states for the program. The Supreme Court though ruled that even if a state doesn't follow the new eligibility rules, they still get the original lower amount of federal funding. Because of this, some of the states will be 'participating' (accepting more people for Medicaid) and other will not. See this map for which states are and which aren't.

ETA - The map is not completely up to date, but each of the states listed there as 'leaning' ended up going the way they leaned. Of the 'pursuing alternative model' states, Iowa and Arkansas are listed as expanding, while Indiana and Tennessee are not. This is all according to medicaid.gov.
Well explained, Thanks

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2013, 10:27:27 AM »
So ny did participate?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2013, 10:30:19 AM »

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2013, 10:55:18 AM »
So if someone is currently on medicaid, is there anything he needs to know/do now?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2013, 11:51:17 AM »
I looked at the table income requirement seems same for ny.

And what is CHIP?  is that child health plus?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2013, 11:54:21 AM »
I looked at the table income requirement seems same for ny.

And what is CHIP?  is that child health plus?
Links for the 2 tables you're comparing?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2013, 12:42:54 PM »
Wow, who knew that Obamacare or DDF for that matter was around in 1982!

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2013, 02:36:57 PM »
Wow, who knew that Obamacare or DDF for that matter was around in 1982!


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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2013, 06:01:29 PM »
I must say, i am surprise how a country like the usa doesnt have a good health system. Let me explain how the swiss works and see if you like it

Basic insurance is mandatory. The government decides whats covered under Basic insurance, but all the normal sickness, treatments and medicins are.
Whoever doesnt have insurance, the government will give you one against your will and force you to pay. There are alot of companies offering this Basic insurance and you are free to pick whatever one you want, but they all gibe the exact same benefits. The insurance company has to accept everyone, no matter in what condition.

If someone cant afford the insurance, then the government will pay for it after checking your income

Any premium plan (private Hospitals, Spezialist, special treatments) is not under government rules and they can deny people entrance at free will

Like this everyone is covered for basics, i might be paying more as a healthy person, as i have to, but hey thats life...

The Basic insurance for a swiss person is about 250 dollars a month. My wife has a premium insurance (free doctor choice, private room after birth... just more choices) thats about extra 150 dollars a month

What do you think?


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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2013, 06:03:54 PM »
The Basic insurance for a swiss person is about 250 dollars a month. My wife has a premium insurance (free doctor choice, private room after birth... just more choices) thats about extra 150 dollars a month

$250/pp including children? Any discounted family rates?

How do children get covered if they (obviously) don't have income, does the Swiss government pay?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2013, 08:24:48 PM »
I don't have time to call or apply for info, a family with gross income $85,000 and 3-4 children how much will it cost to get the new Obama Care and does Obama Care cover out-of-network.

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2013, 08:45:45 PM »
@chuchem:
$250 is for one person?
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