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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2013, 06:01:29 PM »
I must say, i am surprise how a country like the usa doesnt have a good health system. Let me explain how the swiss works and see if you like it

Basic insurance is mandatory. The government decides whats covered under Basic insurance, but all the normal sickness, treatments and medicins are.
Whoever doesnt have insurance, the government will give you one against your will and force you to pay. There are alot of companies offering this Basic insurance and you are free to pick whatever one you want, but they all gibe the exact same benefits. The insurance company has to accept everyone, no matter in what condition.

If someone cant afford the insurance, then the government will pay for it after checking your income

Any premium plan (private Hospitals, Spezialist, special treatments) is not under government rules and they can deny people entrance at free will

Like this everyone is covered for basics, i might be paying more as a healthy person, as i have to, but hey thats life...

The Basic insurance for a swiss person is about 250 dollars a month. My wife has a premium insurance (free doctor choice, private room after birth... just more choices) thats about extra 150 dollars a month

What do you think?


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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2013, 06:03:54 PM »
The Basic insurance for a swiss person is about 250 dollars a month. My wife has a premium insurance (free doctor choice, private room after birth... just more choices) thats about extra 150 dollars a month

$250/pp including children? Any discounted family rates?

How do children get covered if they (obviously) don't have income, does the Swiss government pay?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2013, 08:24:48 PM »
I don't have time to call or apply for info, a family with gross income $85,000 and 3-4 children how much will it cost to get the new Obama Care and does Obama Care cover out-of-network.

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2013, 08:45:45 PM »
@chuchem:
$250 is for one person?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2013, 01:06:52 PM »
I don't have time to call or apply for info, a family with gross income $85,000 and 3-4 children how much will it cost to get the new Obama Care and does Obama Care cover out-of-network.

Oh me me me, pick me!!!! We all have tons of time to check it up for you  :o

Obamacare is not an insurance plan, it just mandates certain services and rules. Insurance companies generally will only pay for medical expenses provided by hospitals and doctors that they "cover".

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2013, 01:55:53 PM »
Oh me me me, pick me!!!! We all have tons of time to check it up for you  :o

Obamacare is not an insurance plan, it just mandates certain services and rules. Insurance companies generally will only pay for medical expenses provided by hospitals and doctors that they "cover".
They claim it's affordable healthcare, how does it get affordable?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2013, 03:38:06 PM »
Does anyone know if the web site automatically checks and verifies your income through previous tax return info?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2013, 11:52:53 AM »
Does anyone know if the web site automatically checks and verifies your income through previous tax return info?
hard to believe, because they need your consent to get ur tax return from the IRS

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2013, 12:16:05 PM »
hard to believe, because they need your consent to get ur tax return from the IRS
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2013, 01:42:40 PM »
You don't need to upload your tax return?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2013, 02:01:04 PM »
Supposedly you need to enter the amount from prior year tax return. The system checks to see if it matched the return that the IRS has on file. If it does that income amount is accepted as true but if it doesn't match you need to send in proof (i guess paystubs) of current income.

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2013, 05:34:00 PM »
Supposedly you need to enter the amount from prior year tax return. The system checks to see if it matched the return that the IRS has on file. If it does that income amount is accepted as true but if it doesn't match you need to send in proof (i guess paystubs) of current income.
So if I understand correctly, if you provide pay stubs, you prove that the return they have on file is wrong? Weird.
Also what if someone made lots of money but currently is making borcht, why should he be penalized for last year's income?

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2013, 05:59:27 PM »
Also what if someone made lots of money but currently is making borcht, why should he be penalized for last year's income?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2013, 06:04:52 PM »
Not sure if this is the correct thread, but what do people think if one has a plan that is conditioned on being outside of the USA most of the year, what happens if the dependent does reside in the US?
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2013, 07:20:01 PM »
To clarify.
If you are still making the same that you made last year, and you enter that amount, and it matches last years tax return.
If you enter an amount different than last years (either more or less) you need to prove it with current pay stubs.

Obviously what is important is what you are making now, and if that's different than what you made last year they use current #'s - but you have to prove it. 

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2013, 08:10:24 PM »
They claim it's affordable healthcare, how does it get affordable?
Non-sequitur?

For ppl who have struggled to traditionally get health insurance it is supposed to be relatively affordable.


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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2013, 12:54:00 PM »
Does anyone know if the web site automatically checks and verifies your income through previous tax return info?

When i entered last years income the website told me that "this information does not seem to match records we have" and asked me to pick a reason for that (like new job, making more money etc.)

So then i put in what iv'e earned this year so far, but same message popped up. only when i put in the amount that i will be making for the whole 2013 (estimate) it went through

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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2013, 10:53:17 AM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/04/news/economy/obamacare-costs/index.html
People are complaining about a $25 plan with a $1500 deductible. Unbelievable.
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Re: ObamaCare Is Live
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2013, 11:05:26 AM »
Latest is they worked it and out and are reopening with some changes to Obamacare.Anyone know what the changes are?