Author Topic: ObamaCare Is Live (Read 20544 times)

KidOOO · « **Reply #80 on:** October 25, 2013, 10:29:56 AM »

Quote from: Lou Bob on October 25, 2013, 10:06:08 AM

are you serious? I personally would be scared to deal with a startup.
If ur sold on purely what the website looks like....

Quote from: KidOOO on October 25, 2013, 12:01:12 AM

if their services are as good and neat as their website, i am sold!

Lou Bob · « **Reply #81 on:** October 25, 2013, 12:25:34 PM »

Quote from: KidOOO on October 25, 2013, 10:29:56 AM

and ur willing to be the genuine pig?

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #82 on:** October 25, 2013, 02:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Lou Bob on October 25, 2013, 12:25:34 PM

and ur willing to be the genuine pig?

an imitation pig would be bad enough...

Lou Bob · « **Reply #83 on:** October 25, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 25, 2013, 02:18:04 PM

an imitation pig would be bad enough...

oops :-)

KidOOO · « **Reply #84 on:** October 26, 2013, 07:53:52 PM »

don't be so sure old insurance companies will be any better, these are new plans for all companies, and everyone is going to share the pain

yuneeq · « **Reply #85 on:** October 26, 2013, 07:59:53 PM »

I heard 800,00 people in NJ alone are getting booted off their insurance plans due to Obama care

zale · « **Reply #86 on:** October 28, 2013, 10:47:25 PM »

Quote from: chuchem on October 03, 2013, 06:01:29 PM

I must say, i am surprise how a country like the usa doesnt have a good health system. Let me explain how the swiss works and see if you like it

Basic insurance is mandatory. The government decides whats covered under Basic insurance, but all the normal sickness, treatments and medicins are.
Whoever doesnt have insurance, the government will give you one against your will and force you to pay. There are alot of companies offering this Basic insurance and you are free to pick whatever one you want, but they all gibe the exact same benefits. The insurance company has to accept everyone, no matter in what condition.

If someone cant afford the insurance, then the government will pay for it after checking your income

Any premium plan (private Hospitals, Spezialist, special treatments) is not under government rules and they can deny people entrance at free will

Like this everyone is covered for basics, i might be paying more as a healthy person, as i have to, but hey thats life...

The Basic insurance for a swiss person is about 250 dollars a month. My wife has a premium insurance (free doctor choice, private room after birth... just more choices) thats about extra 150 dollars a month

What do you think?

What exactly is a "health system"?

Private insurance was doing just fine here until every Tom, Dick and Harry decided to sue their doctors for malpractice. To cover their own insane insurances that have skyrocketed as a result of constant lawsuits, doctors started charging more for visits, which ultimately resulted in private insurances skyrocketing for customers.

So, instead of passing legislation limiting who and for what can sue their doctor, we... kill the private insurance industry?

What Europe and Europeans never seem to understand is that the government is NOT your mommy and daddy. They cannot and should not tell you what type of health coverage you need, and they should not be paying for your healthcare.

Dan · « **Reply #87 on:** October 28, 2013, 10:50:09 PM »

So my health insurance plan is being discontinued next year due to Obamacare.
I signed up in May 2010, apparently 37 days too late to be grandfathered into it.

zale · « **Reply #88 on:** October 28, 2013, 10:57:16 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 28, 2013, 10:50:09 PM

So my health insurance plan is being discontinued next year due to Obamacare.
I signed up in May 2010, apparently 37 days too late to be grandfathered into it.

What are you paying now? What will you be paying with O'care?

yuneeq · « **Reply #89 on:** October 28, 2013, 10:57:49 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 28, 2013, 10:50:09 PM

So my health insurance plan is being discontinued next year due to Obamacare.
I signed up in May 2010, apparently 37 days too late to be grandfathered into it.

Is it the only deal you ever missed?

Dan · « **Reply #90 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:02:46 PM »

Quote from: zale on October 28, 2013, 10:57:16 PM

What are you paying now? What will you be paying with O'care?

Before Talia we were paying $560.22/month for the 3 of us with a $1,500 deductible and 100% coverage with no copay after deductible and 100% coverage with no copay on preventative visits at any time.
Both the premium and deductible are tax-deductible as I'm self-employed and use an HSA.

zale · « **Reply #91 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:16:02 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 28, 2013, 11:02:46 PM

Before Talia we were paying $560.22/month for the 3 of us with a $1,500 deductible and 100% coverage with no copay after deductible and 100% coverage with no copay on preventative visits at any time.
Both the premium and deductible are tax-deductible as I'm self-employed and use an HSA.

What will you pay now with ACA?

Dan · « **Reply #92 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:16:58 PM »

Quote from: zale on October 28, 2013, 11:16:02 PM

What will you pay now with ACA?

Not going to find out until next year.

Dan · « **Reply #93 on:** October 29, 2013, 12:43:52 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-knew-millions-wouldn-t-be-able-to-keep-insurance--report-222249311.html

good sam · « **Reply #94 on:** October 29, 2013, 10:57:54 AM »

Anyone been listening to Savage recently? He is right: "Give Obamacare a chance!"

The surest way to secure a win in the midterm elections is let them implement this so everyone can see what a train-wreck it is.

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #95 on:** October 29, 2013, 11:00:38 AM »

Quote from: good sam on October 29, 2013, 10:57:54 AM

Anyone been listening to Savage recently? He is right: "Give Obamacare a chance!"

The surest way to secure a win in the midterm elections is let them implement this so everyone can see what a train-wreck it is.

It takes 1000 men to rebuild what one child can destroy.

YankyDoodle · « **Reply #96 on:** October 29, 2013, 12:41:02 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on October 29, 2013, 11:00:38 AM

It takes 1000 men to rebuild what one child can destroy.

Exactly, once it's in place it will be much more difficult to overhaul.

good sam · « **Reply #97 on:** October 29, 2013, 05:53:31 PM »

Here it is, was waiting for it:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131029,0,5695979.story#axzz2j9NgTJej

Any issue with obamacare which may seem like an issue is not really an issue. All is well in the world.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #98 on:** October 29, 2013, 08:03:03 PM »

Quote from: good sam on October 29, 2013, 05:53:31 PM

Here it is, was waiting for it:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131029,0,5695979.story#axzz2j9NgTJej

Any issue with obamacare which may seem like an issue is not really an issue. All is well in the world.

His point #1 response is particularly idiotic. The point isn't just that Obama knew people would be forced out of their existing plans, it's that he repeated over and over again that if you like what you have you can keep it, despite knowing otherwise.

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #99 on:** October 29, 2013, 08:40:56 PM »

I don't get it, saying that he DIDN'T know about it (while all the conservatives were earning about it from the beginning) would make him sound really nearsighted...