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Author Topic: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread  (Read 189353 times)

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2340 on: September 19, 2019, 02:45:48 PM »
Are there any shuls in the area that do slichos at like 10 or 11pm?

YI of Woodmere: (probably will take a ridiculously long time)



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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2341 on: September 19, 2019, 04:36:49 PM »
What's the name (and number) of the new cheap glasses store on Central?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2342 on: September 19, 2019, 06:36:34 PM »
Anyone else feel weird about the sushi and selichot combo?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2343 on: September 19, 2019, 06:38:46 PM »
i think shteibel might
Not on motzei shobbos but the rest of the week after 10pm mariv

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2346 on: September 19, 2019, 08:15:53 PM »
Anyone else feel weird about the sushi and selichot combo?
*shushi
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2347 on: September 19, 2019, 10:36:08 PM »
What's the name (and number) of the new cheap glasses store on Central?

They are not so cheap. They just advertise that way.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2348 on: September 19, 2019, 10:38:57 PM »
Are there any shuls in the area that do slichos at like 10 or 11pm?

BTW, Selichos should not be said before around 12:48 a.m.(chatzos)  on any night, especially Motzei Shabbos. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, this practice does not conform with Halacha.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2349 on: September 20, 2019, 09:52:33 AM »
BTW, Selichos should not be said before around 12:48 a.m.(chatzos)  on any night, especially Motzei Shabbos. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, this practice does not conform with Halacha.

Source? Even bidieved?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2350 on: September 20, 2019, 09:58:13 AM »
Anyone else feel weird about the sushi and selichot combo?
yup, wasn't gonna say anything here in the 5T thread

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2351 on: September 20, 2019, 10:00:19 AM »
Maybe itís officially valley stream

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2352 on: September 20, 2019, 10:31:07 AM »
Source? Even bidieved?

 
BTW, Selichos should not be said before around 12:48 a.m.(chatzos)  on any night, especially Motzei Shabbos. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, this practice does not conform with Halacha.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have looked into the matter, you are correct that it is certainly not the ideal time to say them (S.A OC 581:1 and mishna berura there) but under extenuating circumstances Rav Moshe (OC 105) permits it because technically there is no prohibition but shouldnt be done yearly and each time needs a heter. Some say since in eretz yisrael its the correct time and is an ais ratzon there, that is enough to permit if one has work early next day. A person I asked told me that it is brought in halichos shlomo footnotes in moadim that one should not say the 13 middos with a minyan before chatzos (kabbalistic reasons) but others because of above reasoning permit it.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2353 on: September 20, 2019, 01:50:18 PM »
...that is enough to permit if one has work early next day.
Most places just start slichos x minutes before each shachris minyan. So whatever shachris minyan one normally davens at to get to work on time, you should be able to daven then and still get to work on time.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2354 on: September 20, 2019, 03:16:31 PM »

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have looked into the matter, you are correct that it is certainly not the ideal time to say them (S.A OC 581:1 and mishna berura there) but under extenuating circumstances Rav Moshe (OC 105) permits it because technically there is no prohibition but shouldnt be done yearly and each time needs a heter. Some say since in eretz yisrael its the correct time and is an ais ratzon there, that is enough to permit if one has work early next day. A person I asked told me that it is brought in halichos shlomo footnotes in moadim that one should not say the 13 middos with a minyan before chatzos (kabbalistic reasons) but others because of above reasoning permit it.

I did not want to get into the nitty griity's. I was just trying to make an awareness to an apparently not so well known halacha.

That Reb Moshe you are referring to is very strongly apposed to saying selichos before Chtatzos. He also says that if it is neeeds to be done, it should be announced that it is a Horaas Sha'ah. 

At the end of my comment, that Reb Moshe zt"l is what I had in mind.

In Halichos Shlomo, if I remember correctly, he was also extremely against this. But in the footnote you rederenced he says he found out there were some kehilos in Poland who already had this minhag, so he laid back a little bit.

The Mateh Efraim (where most of the Mishna Berura on these halachos are sourced from) says that if one finds himself in a Minyan saying selichos before Chatzos, he should sit there and not say along or even answer the yud gimmel middos. He says that on a regular night one may say the "viduy" part of selichos, but NOT on Motzei Shabbos. This is the only instance I am aware of where one advised to be "presh min hatzibur".