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Author Topic: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread  (Read 284626 times)

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2745 on: July 02, 2020, 02:33:11 AM »
Who thought it would be a good idea to have this massive project right at the exit of our biggest artery out?
Where?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2746 on: July 02, 2020, 09:02:18 AM »
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2747 on: July 02, 2020, 09:31:20 AM »
The sign says that the road construction is until 7/15 so hopefully not too much longer.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2748 on: July 02, 2020, 02:38:44 PM »
The sign says that the road construction is until 7/15 so hopefully not too much longer.
just like the projected completion on buildings says something like Fall 2020 and they havent even dug a foundation yet... ::)
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2749 on: July 05, 2020, 01:03:27 PM »
Anyone know who mehadrin of 5t is? 550 and chimichurri switched to them.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2750 on: July 05, 2020, 01:57:12 PM »
Anyone know who mehadrin of 5t is? 550 and chimichurri switched to them.
per elan kornblum (gkrf):
Both Chimichurri and FiveFifty in the 5 Towns have taken the local hashgacha, Mehadrin of the Five Towns, led by eteemed Rabbi Yehuda Eliyahu and Rabbi Sholom Silberberg.

I've been working with the restaurant on this and was told to wait until it's official and a letter was sent to the Vaad informing them of their decision, so here's the latest.

Rav Eliyahu is the Rabbi of both proprietors and they respect and admire him greatly as a Chacham and Tzaddik.  They know he will maintain the highest kashrus standards they and their customers abide by.  In fact, the current mashgichim have been approved and will continue working in the restaurant under the new supervision.

Rav Eliyahu learned in Mir Yerusahlayim and Lakewood, NJ. He was the Rabbi in Hong Kong, Great Neck, Staten Island and is currently in North Woodmere Ohr Torah. Rabbi Silberberg is the Rav of Kehal B'nai Torah in Woodmere and has a Kolel Ner Shlomo in Cedarhurst.  He is a Rabbi for the Halacha Hotline of Far Rockaway and 5 Towns.

To contact the supervision, please email: mehadrinoffivetowns@gmail.com

The restaurants would like to thank Rabbi Eisen and the Vaad of Five Towns for their hard work and supervision over the many years.

I welcome and encourage them to work together with this new supervision in strengthening our community.

PS. I know this will be a lively discussion, but I ask that this be a respectful one and not one where we mock, ridicule or slander others. Thank you.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2751 on: July 05, 2020, 02:27:05 PM »
Anyone know who mehadrin of 5t is? 550 and chimichurri switched to them.

I would advise you to speak to someone who is involved in local lashes. Maybe your Rov if he is part of the Vaad of the Fuve Towns.

This change in supervision is a step down, not a step up. First if all, they are much less experienced in the field of Kashrus and might not know what to look out for. In additon, the Vaad is part of the AKO network. Therefore they have access to, and network with other professionals and attend meetings about the latest on the kashmir industry.  This Mehadrin supervisor does not.

According to the Rabbi I spoke to, Mehadrin are amateurs in the field and also have a much lower standard than the Vaad. There are mashgichim who the Vaad does not accept, and Mehadrin does.

Be careful, there is a reason why they are switching, and it is not to upgrade their standards.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2752 on: July 05, 2020, 02:29:42 PM »
there is a reason why they are switching, and it is not to upgrade their standards.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2753 on: July 05, 2020, 02:47:23 PM »

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2754 on: July 05, 2020, 03:15:09 PM »
Iíve heard only the best about this. They have intentions for the best kashrus for everyone. Kashrus in the whole town will be better because of this.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2755 on: July 05, 2020, 03:20:41 PM »
I’ve heard only the best about this. They have intentions for the best kashrus for everyone. Kashrus in the whole town will be better because of this.


What did you hear specifically?
I'm going to try and approach this with an open mind but a change in hechsherim always raises flags. Especially if it's for a local Rabbi and not another reputable organization.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2756 on: July 05, 2020, 03:24:07 PM »
I would advise you to speak to someone who is involved in local lashes. Maybe your Rov if he is part of the Vaad of the Fuve Towns.

This change in supervision is a step down, not a step up. First if all, they are much less experienced in the field of Kashrus and might not know what to look out for. In additon, the Vaad is part of the AKO network. Therefore they have access to, and network with other professionals and attend meetings about the latest on the kashmir industry.  This Mehadrin supervisor does not.

According to the Rabbi I spoke to, Mehadrin are amateurs in the field and also have a much lower standard than the Vaad. There are mashgichim who the Vaad does not accept, and Mehadrin does.

Be careful, there is a reason why they are switching, and it is not to upgrade their standards.

Even if what you are saying is true, at a time when restaurant margins are really small and are being hit really hard by the corona effect maybe this is necessary to help keep these Jewish businesses opened by lowering costs. There are times that relying on leniencies and lowering standards in halacha is warranted for the good of the community. No one is telling any specific person where to eat and what standards to hold by. Asking your LOR is almost always the way to go

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2757 on: July 05, 2020, 04:05:36 PM »
Even if what you are saying is true, at a time when restaurant margins are really small and are being hit really hard by the corona effect maybe this is necessary to help keep these Jewish businesses opened by lowering costs. There are times that relying on leniencies and lowering standards in halacha is warranted for the good of the community. No one is telling any specific person where to eat and what standards to hold by. Asking your LOR is almost always the way to go

There would be no reason to lower ones standards just so we can have two more eateries in town. Eateries are not a necessity, and definitely  not when we have so many other choices.

Our local Vaad happens to be considered pretty lenient in the field of Kashrus. Going down a standard is not a good thing.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2758 on: July 05, 2020, 04:20:40 PM »
There would be no reason to lower ones standards just so we can have two more eateries in town. Eateries are not a necessity, and definitely  not when we have so many other choices.

Our local Vaad happens to be considered pretty lenient in the field of Kashrus. Going down a standard is not a good thing.

Thats a totally acceptable opinion but maybe others who are big talmidei chachamim disagree with you and would rather give people the choice to determine a standard that is appropriate for them?  Also, as of now 2 have switched, perhaps soon more will use this hechsher. I would wait before passing definitive judgement.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2759 on: July 05, 2020, 04:22:14 PM »
Thats a totally acceptable opinion but maybe others who are big talmidei chachamim disagree with you and would rather give people the choice to determine a standard that is appropriate for them?  Also, as of now 2 have switched, perhaps soon more will use this hechsher. I would wait before passing definitive judgement.


Lots of speculation. I'm assuming they don't advertisetadvertise as having lower standards. I'm genuinely curious what their standards are.
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