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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3480 on: March 28, 2022, 05:16:22 PM »
Any updates on a new grocery?
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3481 on: March 29, 2022, 09:28:43 AM »
Any updates on a new grocery?
Not really

But I have a question about an existing supermarket.

GG has not had checked Romain for weeks. This is because of the same reason Star-k and OK recently temporarily removed their supervision from Fresh Express/Dole. There is extremely heavy infestation right now.

Nobody in the our part of the country is able to get cleanable Romain. GG has their people going to the Market daily and has spent thousands of wasted money trying to get supply. TO THEIR CREDIT, they refuse to lower their standards, and will not bend and take in infested product.

The infestation I belive is small thrips. One must be trained to realize what these are and what they look like.

A robo-call went out in Lakewood last week warning people that the regular method of cleaning lettuce at home is not effective in cleaning this high infeatation, and Romain should be completely avoided. (Except from pre-packaged with reliable certification. For example, Postiv and Kosher Garden is grown in a special insect free Green House custom built to avoid infestation. Spring on Central, for example, is nly usuing their product.) This has been an issue for about three weeks.

So here is my question: HOW IS SEASONS ALWAYS FULLY STOCKED WITH PRE-CHECKED ROMAIN?!? Where are they getting it from? Even if they are throwing out a lot, the others in the field are not able to get the quantity Seasons has. And they have it on a consistent basis. How are they able to clean what nobody else on the East Coast is able to? Are they able to sit a scrub each leaf so well? Or does their checker need a new pair of glasses?!?

Bugs is the most serious issue with regards to Kashrus. It involes the more biblical prohibitions than any other kashrus issue.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3482 on: March 29, 2022, 09:30:54 AM »
Ask them?
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3483 on: March 29, 2022, 10:14:24 AM »
Any updates on a new grocery?


Not happening any time soon

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3484 on: March 29, 2022, 10:16:02 AM »
Not really

But I have a question about an existing supermarket.

GG has not had checked Romain for weeks. This is because of the same reason Star-k and OK recently temporarily removed their supervision from Fresh Express/Dole. There is extremely heavy infestation right now.

Nobody in the our part of the country is able to get cleanable Romain. GG has their people going to the Market daily and has spent thousands of wasted money trying to get supply. TO THEIR CREDIT, they refuse to lower their standards, and will not bend and take in infested product.

The infestation I belive is small thrips. One must be trained to realize what these are and what they look like.

A robo-call went out in Lakewood last week warning people that the regular method of cleaning lettuce at home is not effective in cleaning this high infeatation, and Romain should be completely avoided. (Except from pre-packaged with reliable certification. For example, Postiv and Kosher Garden is grown in a special insect free Green House custom built to avoid infestation. Spring on Central, for example, is nly usuing their product.) This has been an issue for about three weeks.

So here is my question: HOW IS SEASONS ALWAYS FULLY STOCKED WITH PRE-CHECKED ROMAIN?!? Where are they getting it from? Even if they are throwing out a lot, the others in the field are not able to get the quantity Seasons has. And they have it on a consistent basis. How are they able to clean what nobody else on the East Coast is able to? Are they able to sit a scrub each leaf so well? Or does their checker need a new pair of glasses?!?

Bugs is the most serious issue with regards to Kashrus. It involes the more biblical prohibitions than any other kashrus issue.

Looks like you found a major scandal! Great job!

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3485 on: March 29, 2022, 10:44:54 AM »
Ask them?
+1, or better yet, ask their rav hamachshir or hechsher before taking to an online forum where it's highly unlikely that you'll get an answer to such a question.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3486 on: March 29, 2022, 11:12:50 AM »
Not really

But I have a question about an existing supermarket.

GG has not had checked Romain for weeks. This is because of the same reason Star-k and OK recently temporarily removed their supervision from Fresh Express/Dole. There is extremely heavy infestation right now.

Nobody in the our part of the country is able to get cleanable Romain. GG has their people going to the Market daily and has spent thousands of wasted money trying to get supply. TO THEIR CREDIT, they refuse to lower their standards, and will not bend and take in infested product.

The infestation I belive is small thrips. One must be trained to realize what these are and what they look like.

A robo-call went out in Lakewood last week warning people that the regular method of cleaning lettuce at home is not effective in cleaning this high infeatation, and Romain should be completely avoided. (Except from pre-packaged with reliable certification. For example, Postiv and Kosher Garden is grown in a special insect free Green House custom built to avoid infestation. Spring on Central, for example, is nly usuing their product.) This has been an issue for about three weeks.

So here is my question: HOW IS SEASONS ALWAYS FULLY STOCKED WITH PRE-CHECKED ROMAIN?!? Where are they getting it from? Even if they are throwing out a lot, the others in the field are not able to get the quantity Seasons has. And they have it on a consistent basis. How are they able to clean what nobody else on the East Coast is able to? Are they able to sit a scrub each leaf so well? Or does their checker need a new pair of glasses?!?

Bugs is the most serious issue with regards to Kashrus. It involes the more biblical prohibitions than any other kashrus issue.
There is plenty of checked Romaine in Flatbush available... You know a mere 40-45 minute drive away please find out where they are getting it from too... This is a MAJOR scandal

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3487 on: March 29, 2022, 11:28:09 AM »
There is plenty of checked Romaine in Flatbush available... You know a mere 40-45 minute drive away please find out where they are getting it from too... This is a MAJOR scandal
huge scandal!!!! before we even ask them where its from lets assume its a scandal!
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3488 on: March 29, 2022, 12:24:36 PM »
There is plenty of checked Romaine in Flatbush available... You know a mere 40-45 minute drive away please find out where they are getting it from too... This is a MAJOR scandal
Not true. In Flatbush only places who repackage Postiv has.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3489 on: March 29, 2022, 12:27:10 PM »
+1, or better yet, ask their rav hamachshir or hechsher before taking to an online forum where it's highly unlikely that you'll get an answer to such a question.
Your have less of a chance getting the real answer from the Rav Hamachshir. The store just says we're throwing out a lot.
But they are getting much more than anybody else is able to.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3490 on: March 29, 2022, 12:31:54 PM »
Not true. In Flatbush only places who repackage Postiv has.
What is wrong with Positiv?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3491 on: March 29, 2022, 02:17:25 PM »
What is wrong with Positiv?
Postiv is the best in Kosherwise. Just not as fresh. Seasons is somehow selling fresh "cleaned". So are some of the local eateries, albeit on a smaller scale.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3492 on: March 29, 2022, 02:36:11 PM »
+1, or better yet, ask their rav hamachshir or hechsher before taking to an online forum where it's highly unlikely that you'll get an answer to such a question.
That would defeat the purpose.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3493 on: March 29, 2022, 05:49:13 PM »
GG has not had checked Romain for weeks. This is because of the same reason Star-k and OK recently temporarily removed their supervision from Fresh Express/Dole. There is extremely heavy infestation right now.

So here is my question: HOW IS SEASONS ALWAYS FULLY STOCKED WITH PRE-CHECKED ROMAIN?!? Where are they getting it from? Even if they are throwing out a lot, the others in the field are not able to get the quantity Seasons has. And they have it on a consistent basis. How are they able to clean what nobody else on the East Coast is able to? Are they able to sit a scrub each leaf so well? Or does their checker need a new pair of glasses?!?


Aren't they under the same supervision? Why don't you ask them directly?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3494 on: March 29, 2022, 07:13:28 PM »
Aren't they under the same supervision? Why don't you ask them directly?
You should know by now that there is not one standard set across all of this local supervision. Each place has mashgichim with different qualifications.

Asking the local hashgacha if they are competent,  is like asking a builder if they are good at building.

Better yet, ask the Mashgiach in GG if he would touch the stuff being sold elsewhere. (I know the answer to that question.) To GG credit, they are very particular to get an excellent Mashgiach for their veggie department when they are able to.

Our local hashgacha has expressed fairly recently that some of their checker are not qualified.

I asked already. I was hoping others will ask and get better answers. NO OTHER STORES in NY or Lakewood are able to put out the quantity Seasons has with the current infestation.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3495 on: March 29, 2022, 07:28:27 PM »
So don’t buy there. Why do you care so much? You just want to hock

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3496 on: March 29, 2022, 08:00:07 PM »
So don’t buy there. Why do you care so much? You just want to hock
you answered your own question
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3497 on: March 31, 2022, 11:42:49 PM »
GG has not had checked Romain for weeks.
Had plenty tonight.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3498 on: March 31, 2022, 11:46:41 PM »
https://www.darcheisholom.com/chumash-shiur
HaRav Reuven Feinstein's Friday Chumash Shiur has been going on virtually (in addition to live)
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Tomorrow, it will IY"H be live in Far Rockaway, The White Shul, IINM, and broadcast from there.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #3499 on: April 01, 2022, 12:17:20 AM »

am I understanding this: rav Reuven Feinstein is giving a shiur in the white shul tommorow?

@yungermanchik ?
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