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Author Topic: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread  (Read 680260 times)

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #780 on: July 04, 2016, 04:41:17 PM »
So Rita's is opening on central. Mixed feelings about that
A little birdy told me they're opening tomorrow.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #781 on: July 04, 2016, 04:50:35 PM »
A little birdy told me they're opening tomorrow.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #782 on: July 04, 2016, 05:25:22 PM »
Is Ritas going to be dairy or Pareve? If dairy, will it be Cholov Yisroel?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #783 on: July 04, 2016, 06:11:24 PM »
Is Ritas going to be dairy or Pareve? If dairy, will it be Cholov Yisroel?

The one in oceanside has both and is not CY. im assuming this one will have pareve too. don't know about CY dairy

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #784 on: July 04, 2016, 08:25:07 PM »
Passed by Rita's today and spoke to them, they are opening tomorrow and will not be carrying the CY custard but they have many parve flavors.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #785 on: July 04, 2016, 08:37:59 PM »
 That's too bad. I have a feeling they will not make it on to the mehudar list if they serve non-CY there.  :'(

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #786 on: July 04, 2016, 09:32:58 PM »
That's too bad. I have a feeling they will not make it on to the mehudar list if they serve non-CY there.  :'(
What's the mehudar list?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #787 on: July 04, 2016, 09:37:29 PM »
Rabbi Forst has a list of establishments which are "mehudar", which heed to a higher standard. The mehudar list is on par with Kehila Kashrus of Flatbush.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #788 on: July 04, 2016, 09:58:38 PM »
Rabbi Forst has a list of establishments which are "mehudar", which heed to a higher standard. The mehudar list is on par with Kehila Kashrus of Flatbush.
Where could I get a copy of this list. Would love to see it.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #789 on: July 04, 2016, 10:25:31 PM »
They don't really give out the list. You email them and ask "is ----- mehudar?" and they respond. Or "Which Pizza establishments are mehudar?"

Ask someone who davens in his shul for the email address. It's worth it. And you probably should not eat by any place which does not make it onto the list. There is probably a reason it's not on there.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #790 on: July 04, 2016, 11:10:26 PM »
And you probably should not eat by any place which does not make it onto the list. There is probably a reason it's not on there.
Easy there. There are plenty of restaurants that chose not to be on the list for various reasons. And to be on the list the store needs to only buy certain products that are often more expensive when the other brands are just as kosher according to the vaad as well as the OU. The store also has to agree to never substitute the (also kosher) alternatives. That is but one example.
It's not just about "making the list" or not.

What's the mehudar list?
Something that Ritas was never going to be on, CY or not.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #791 on: July 04, 2016, 11:15:53 PM »
I was being "easy there". Many of the stores which are not on the list, are absolutely not OU standard. You might want to do some research why each place is not on the list. (Which there is no charge to be on)There is good reason why some didn't make the list.

Kehila Kashrus is considered an "OU standard" certification. The list basically keeps Kehila Kashrus standards. It is not over-the-top.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #792 on: July 04, 2016, 11:19:17 PM »
I was being "easy there". Many of the stores which are not on the list, are absolutely not OU standard. You might want to do some research why each place is not on the list. (Which there is no charge to be on)There is good reason why some didn't make the list.

Kehila Kashrus is considered an "OU standard" certification. The list basically keeps Kehila Kashrus standards. It is not over-the-top.
I know of one store that specifically does not want to be on the list because he feels that "being on the list" would bring a more "Far Rockaway cheapy" crowd (his words) and he likes the 5-Towns big spenders.

Moreover, there are some specific OU products that you are not allowed to use to be "on the list".

There are stores that use only the heimish brand items rather than OU but don't want to be restricted to them when prices fluctuate or for whatever reason.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #793 on: July 05, 2016, 12:58:13 AM »
If I'm not mistaken a big part of the list is to do with the lettuce/bugs issue.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #794 on: July 05, 2016, 04:20:03 AM »
If I'm not mistaken a big part of the list is to do with the lettuce/bugs issue.
If the store has 5TV cert it's good enough for that . Rav eisen is pretty makpid on that stuff .  more than his standard is just way over the top

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #795 on: July 05, 2016, 05:03:17 AM »
Well, the same Rabbi Eisen does not allow any Kehila Kashrus establishments to sell or serve prechecked vegetables anymore. Obviuosly, he is not comfortable with it. He does not control Vaad policies. But he does control Kehila Kashrus policy. And by the way, Rabbi Eisen is the advisor of "the list".

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #796 on: July 05, 2016, 08:27:48 AM »
In order to be on the list, you can't play English music and there's a certain standard of dress that the waiters need to have.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #797 on: July 05, 2016, 08:33:27 AM »
In order to be on the list, you can't play English music and there's a certain standard of dress that the waiters need to have.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #798 on: July 05, 2016, 08:46:16 AM »
I don't  mean to spoil anybody's party, but it's easy to dismiss why each establishment is or is not on the list. It is true, there might be certain hashkafic reasons why a place is not in the list. But generally soeaking, it all boils down to kashrus. For example, bugs. Every single bug is five lavim. In one bite one can eat numerous bugs. Sushi is prone to infestation and requires a good checker. Not all Vaad establishments have one. There are many other Kashrus issues as well. There are many things Rabbi Eisen allows here, in accordance to Vaad policy, while he does not allow those same leniencies  in Flatbush. Hence the list.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #799 on: July 05, 2016, 08:49:50 AM »
I don't  mean to spoil anybody's party, but it's easy to dismiss why each establishment is or is not on the list. It is true, there might be certain hashkafic reasons why a place is not in the list. But generally soeaking, it all boils down to kashrus. For example, bugs. Every single bug is five lavim. In one bite one can eat numerous bugs. Sushi is prone to infestation and requires a good checker. Not all Vaad establishments have one. There are many other Kashrus issues as well. There are many things Rabbi Eisen allows here, in accordance to Vaad policy, while he does not allow those same leniencies  in Flatbush. Hence the list.
I'm just wondering, what skin do you have in this game? You seem pretty passionate about this list.