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Author Topic: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread  (Read 680336 times)

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1040 on: December 08, 2016, 10:48:29 AM »
thats what i thought. So why would anyone shop in GG they are a bunch of thugs then.

Maybe because GG wont let anyone else come to town...

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1041 on: December 08, 2016, 10:53:47 AM »
Only the milk for coffee


I believe you need to ask specifically for CY milk CMIIW

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1042 on: December 08, 2016, 10:58:21 AM »

I believe you need to ask specifically for CY milk CMIIW
All milk used for coffe is CY

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1043 on: December 08, 2016, 12:07:35 PM »
Maybe because GG wont let anyone else come to town...
thats not exactly accurate. The deal between KRM and brach's fell through without involvement from GG. I believe it had something to do with the costs of renovating being much higher than KRM originally estimated. GG did then get involved and in their involvement did get KRM agree to not compete in the 5T for a time

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1044 on: December 08, 2016, 12:30:16 PM »
thats not exactly accurate. The deal between KRM and brach's fell through without involvement from GG. I believe it had something to do with the costs of renovating being much higher than KRM originally estimated. GG did then get involved and in their involvement did get KRM agree to not compete in the 5T for a time
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5towns is a huge open market for a store like KRM what did KRM gain from agreeing not to compete? Hard to blv.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1045 on: December 08, 2016, 12:46:46 PM »
5towns is a huge open market for a store like KRM what did KRM gain from agreeing not to compete? Hard to blv.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1046 on: December 08, 2016, 12:50:24 PM »
5towns is a huge open market for a store like KRM what did KRM gain from agreeing not to compete? Hard to blv.

Believe it. That is GG style. They forced themselves in Lakewood too. If KRM would move to town, GG is finished. They wont be able to take advantage of us anymore.

It's just amazing how such a large community like ours is stuck with the monopoly of two rip-off stores. It's almost like living out-of-town where the one Kosher supermarket sells for inflated prices to the entire community, and everyone is stuck with it. But at least out-of-town it is justified. They don't sell large volume and need to make up for it somehow. Here, they have the volume and still rip us off.

I almost don't feel bad about the fire....

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1047 on: December 08, 2016, 01:17:35 PM »
5towns is a huge open market for a store like KRM what did KRM gain from agreeing not to compete? Hard to blv.
GG helped KRM get out of the Brach's deal after paying a pretty large deposit. No one here is acting selflessly

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1048 on: December 08, 2016, 01:18:21 PM »
Believe it. That is GG style. They forced themselves in Lakewood too. If KRM would move to town, GG is finished. They wont be able to take advantage of us anymore.

It's just amazing how such a large community like ours is stuck with the monopoly of two rip-off stores. It's almost like living out-of-town where the one Kosher supermarket sells for inflated prices to the entire community, and everyone is stuck with it. But at least out-of-town it is justified. They don't sell large volume and need to make up for it somehow. Here, they have the volume and still rip us off.

I almost don't feel bad about the fire....
I agree with all of what you said up until the last sentence

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1049 on: December 08, 2016, 01:27:39 PM »
Imagine they raised their prices even more because of this fire. :-X


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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1050 on: December 08, 2016, 02:04:59 PM »
GG helped KRM get out of the Brach's deal after paying a pretty large deposit. No one here is acting selflessly
I still dont full understand why KRM backed out even if this is true. Costs of renovating? Brachs was not in such bad shape and even if they were its such a huge open market with no competition.

Maybe GG helped KRM get out of the deal plus added in another million etc... But even so it still doesnt make sense

Im guessing GG threatened to drop their prices 30% the second they move in.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1051 on: December 08, 2016, 02:06:52 PM »
I agree with all of what you said up until the last sentence
why? ppl cant eat. Food is to expensive and GG could care less.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1052 on: December 08, 2016, 05:25:17 PM »


It's almost like living out-of-town where the one Kosher supermarket sells for inflated prices to the entire community, and everyone is stuck with it.
Eh, Lakewood is the same thing, just with more stores.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1053 on: December 08, 2016, 07:16:00 PM »
Eh, Lakewood is the same thing, just with more stores.

Same thing?!?!

More Stores=More competiton=Lower Prices

Even GG Lakewood is cheaper than here for the same items. And in Lakewood they are considered high end.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1054 on: December 08, 2016, 09:57:09 PM »
Same thing?!?!

More Stores=More competiton=Lower Prices

Even GG Lakewood is cheaper than here for the same items. And in Lakewood they are considered high end.
I haven't shopped in the 5T in a while, but Lakewood prices are artificially inflated too. There's enough business for everyone, so the stores aren't competing enough to require them to lower prices.
There was a big discussion in the Lakewood thread about it a while back

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1055 on: December 08, 2016, 10:14:23 PM »
I haven't shopped in the 5T in a while, but Lakewood prices are artificially inflated too. There's enough business for everyone, so the stores aren't competing enough to require them to lower prices.
There was a big discussion in the Lakewood thread about it a while back

You can go to whatsonsale website and compare GG Five Towns with Lakewood, and Seasons Five Towns with Lakewood. And that's just their sale items.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1056 on: December 09, 2016, 09:07:24 AM »
I still dont full understand why KRM backed out even if this is true. Costs of renovating? Brachs was not in such bad shape and even if they were its such a huge open market with no competition.

Maybe GG helped KRM get out of the deal plus added in another million etc... But even so it still doesnt make sense

Im guessing GG threatened to drop their prices 30% the second they move in.
Why cant you believe that after looking at the actual cost of renovating brach's KRM decided that it was too expensive and backed out? Also, why doesnt it make sense that GG basically paid KRM to stay out of the 5T for a few years?
Why does GG threatening to lower their prices make more sense?

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1057 on: December 09, 2016, 09:21:26 AM »
Why cant you believe that after looking at the actual cost of renovating brach's KRM decided that it was too expensive and backed out? Also, why doesnt it make sense that GG basically paid KRM to stay out of the 5T for a few years?
Why does GG threatening to lower their prices make more sense?
How high can renovations cost that it wont be worth it to open a store in a wide open market? (we are not talking about the cost of the property and real estate because that they knew upfront) Most stores do it in a populated market.

Threatening to lower prices make more sense because with competition from GG maybe the risk wasnt worth it.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1058 on: December 09, 2016, 09:25:21 AM »
Also, why doesnt it make sense that GG basically paid KRM to stay out of the 5T for a few years?
 
Hard for me to see a $ that would work for both sides. Regardless dont you think its a scummy thing to do? (paying your competition off so you can rip everyone else off)
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #1059 on: December 09, 2016, 10:41:13 AM »
How high can renovations cost that it wont be worth it to open a store in a wide open market? (we are not talking about the cost of the property and real estate because that they knew upfront) Most stores do it in a populated market.

Threatening to lower prices make more sense because with competition from GG maybe the risk wasnt worth it.
Put the cost of renovations on top of all other costs.

If Brach's wasn't profitable, what makes you think KRM can make a profit with higher costs?