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Author Topic: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread  (Read 284103 times)

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2790 on: July 07, 2020, 04:18:41 PM »
@sammyp where did u get that message? Why/who would post such a terrible fake message? seems it would be either competing restaurants (unlikely) or crazy people who are machmirim to such an extent that they are machmir to fulfill the elements of motzei shem rah bemehadrin?


or it's a draft of a letter that will be sent out but isn't finalized yet
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2791 on: July 07, 2020, 04:19:31 PM »
@sammyp where did u get that message? Why/who would post such a terrible fake message? seems it would be either competing restaurants (unlikely) or crazy people who are machmirim to such an extent that they are machmir to fulfill the elements of motzei shem rah bemehadrin?
Probably in some watsapp group. I received the same. However, it seemed fake, as there was no signature and not on baad letterhead, so I didnít bother posting.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2792 on: July 07, 2020, 04:48:31 PM »
They also caused a lot of problems for GG a while back when they sold non kosher chicken
FTFY

There's a lot of history regarding FR/5T Kashrus that people need to know and understand before taking a side here.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2793 on: July 07, 2020, 04:49:26 PM »

can't compare. many smaller communities have a local vaad. in fact, the OU won't give a hechsher if there is a local vaad. you can argue that maybe we've outgrown it
Indeed. Like the OK ice cream shop on West Broadway.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2794 on: July 07, 2020, 04:50:31 PM »
but seriously, isnt the head of the vaad R Eisen, who (though he may have great knowledge) is not a community rabbi?
Rabbi Eisen lives in Flatbush. He is a hired administrator of the FR/5T Va'ad Hakashrus.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2795 on: July 07, 2020, 04:50:53 PM »
Indeed. Like the OK ice cream shop on West Broadway.


which?
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2796 on: July 07, 2020, 04:51:04 PM »
Just out of curiosity. He keeps referencing our community. Does he live in the 5 towns?
No, he lives in Marine Park, Brooklyn.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2797 on: July 07, 2020, 04:51:59 PM »

which?
This goes back about 5 years. It was a chain under the OK and they would not certify without the Va'ad being on there first.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2798 on: July 07, 2020, 04:53:33 PM »
This goes back about 5 years. It was a chain under the OK and they would not certify without the Va'ad being on there first.


interesting. there must be advantages to  a local vaad if ou and ok won't go against it.
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2799 on: July 07, 2020, 05:28:22 PM »
If this thread ever splits into a 5 Towns Thread and a Rockaway Thread we'll know we are in trouble.  ;)

Great Neck doesn't have a Vaad. I think to quote an above post, it may be time to rethink the value of the Vaad entirely.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2800 on: July 07, 2020, 05:41:22 PM »
how many times have fake letters circulated and the first thing everyone asks for is where are the signatures? why would the one who posted it rush and post this? literally as i was reading it it sounded fake. If you have an agenda you miss it. seriously
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2801 on: July 07, 2020, 05:50:05 PM »
If this thread ever splits into a 5 Towns Thread and a Rockaway Thread we'll know we are in trouble.  ;)

Great Neck doesn't have a Vaad. I think to quote an above post, it may be time to rethink the value of the Vaad entirely.
Great neck has many issues with the kashrus there,
Some that cant hold a hashkagacha for more than a few days

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2802 on: July 07, 2020, 07:09:30 PM »
Why is the fact that other cities don't have a vaad relevant? Having a vaad (while it could potentially cause politics, and kulos in standards across the board), definitely stops more politics and kashrus issues. When it's every man for himself it's harder for the consumer to know whats good and what isn't, and can cause tons of l"h etc. Even if you find another community that doesn't have one and seems like everything is fine, that doesn't negate these obvious benefits.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2803 on: July 07, 2020, 07:45:22 PM »
The vaad has a monopoly on all the hashgscha in the 5 towns. This isn't 1990 where one type of frum person lives there. The community has grown tremendously and its about time someone shakes things up a little bit. They don't run the community and let people another hashgacha, or be able to open their shul when some rabbanim are against it.

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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
« Reply #2804 on: July 07, 2020, 08:03:43 PM »
The vaad has a monopoly on all the hashgscha in the 5 towns. This isn't 1990 where one type of frum person lives there. The community has grown tremendously and its about time someone shakes things up a little bit. They don't run the community and let people another hashgacha, or be able to open their shul when some rabbanim are against it.