5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread

[ushdadude]

Does the owner of 550 restaurant and owns banner fish ,had insurance on the losses now with the recall ? Wonder if that was a sign from hashem because the chilul hashem he caused in the kashrus world

There are no neviim nowadays

[sammyp]

Does the owner of 550 restaurant and owns banner fish ,had insurance on the losses now with the recall ? Wonder if that was a sign from hashem because the chilul hashem he caused in the kashrus world

Probably not. Because then the ones who really cause the Chilul Hashem would be in trouble.

What Chilul Hashem are you referring to anyway? 550 didn't even go to court (although they were allowed to). They went to a Beis Din in Brooklyn. That is what Beis Din is made for. To determine who was right according to Halacha. When the Rabbis wouldn't come, and even pulled out of an agreed zabla (this info was missing from article posted on local website), 550 backed down and did not go to court.

550 were the ones who followed the rules. They did not cause any Chillul Hashem.

In fact, one of the most learned and greatest Talmidei Chochomim on town made a simcha at 550 even after the suit was filed in Beis Din. They have some big Rabonim on their side and they did everything quietly and properly.

You owe them an apology.

[Afrages6]

Probably not. Because then the ones who really cause the Chilul Hashem would be in trouble.

What Chilul Hashem are you referring to anyway? 550 didn't even go to court (although they were allowed to). They went to a Beis Din in Brooklyn. That is what Beis Din is made for. To determine who was right according to Halacha. When the Rabbis wouldn't come, and even pulled out of an agreed zabla (this info was missing from article posted on local website), 550 backed down and did not go to court.

550 were the ones who followed the rules. They did not cause any Chillul Hashem.

In fact, one of the most learned and greatest Talmidei Chochomim on town made a simcha at 550 even after the suit was filed in Beis Din. They have some big Rabonim on their side and they did everything quietly and properly.

You owe them an apology.

You mean the owners sons constantly bashing the rabbinic leadership of the community on Facebook is doing things quietly?

I guess when you compare it to chimichurri crying to the New York post it is pretty quiet. But seriously give me a break. And a Talmid chochom eating there doesn’t give any viability to the matter.

You mean rabbonim who signed the letter are in actuality siding with 550?

Give me a break. You claim everything and don’t bring a single shred of proof to your claims.

[JMHO]

@sammyp what is your personal connection or relationship to 550?

[sammyp]

@sammyp what is your personal connection or relationship to 550?

I have never walked into that place in my life. I don't know who owns it either. I do know some people involved in the lawsuit and Beis din process. I also know so witnesses.

I also personally heard from Rabonim who's told me their names were forged on that letter.

Many Rabbis are not fans if the Vaad. They are just not vocal about it because they don't want to be harassed. But their followers know.

A great Rabbi watching there does show some validity to their Kashrus.

[justaregularguy]

If anyone here went to the white shul dinner this past week (as I did) you would have heard the most intense haskama for the vaad by r Feiner. He basically dedicated his dinner speech by iterating that the rabbanim on the vaad are completely lsheim shamayim and they never took a dime as payment and never will. The vaad of 5t had a kashrus audit by one of the leading names in kashrus in america (he didn’t say his name) and told r Feiner after the audit this vaad is head and shoulders above any vaad in america.
Honestly I felt a little weird as I’ve never heard r Feiner speak so politically but he was on fire about it.
(He tied in how he hates machlokes w parshas korach etc)

[aygart]

(although they were allowed to).

You have mentioned this a number of times yet despite having been asked you have declined to quote what the basis for this is.

[JMHO]

I do know some people involved in the lawsuit and Beis din process. I also know so witnesses.

Ok, that clarifies some things. Thanks for being transparent about this.

[JMHO]

If anyone here went to the white shul dinner this past week (as I did) you would have heard the most intense haskama for the vaad by r Feiner. He basically dedicated his dinner speech by iterating that the rabbanim on the vaad are completely lsheim shamayim and they never took a dime as payment and never will. The vaad of 5t had a kashrus audit by one of the leading names in kashrus in america (he didn’t say his name) and told r Feiner after the audit this vaad is head and shoulders above any vaad in america.
Honestly I felt a little weird as I’ve never heard r Feiner speak so politically but he was on fire about it.
(He tied in how he hates machlokes w parshas korach etc)

Wow. If anyone knows R' Feiner, this is even more powerful. I'm happy he discussed this in Shul and not the New York Post 

[sammyp]

You have mentioned this a number of times yet despite having been asked you have declined to quote what the basis for this is.

When the Rabonim summonsed to the Brooklyn beis din refused to respond to the hazmana, a heater arkaos was offered.

[Sammy82]

Follow my rov and several other rabbonim who I would follow any other day or some anonymous poster who says we should trust him because he knows?
I think 99.99% of the people in the velt would do what I do.
Could we move on now?

[sammyp]

If anyone here went to the white shul dinner this past week (as I did) you would have heard the most intense haskama for the vaad by r Feiner. He basically dedicated his dinner speech by iterating that the rabbanim on the vaad are completely lsheim shamayim and they never took a dime as payment and never will. The vaad of 5t had a kashrus audit by one of the leading names in kashrus in america (he didn’t say his name) and told r Feiner after the audit this vaad is head and shoulders above any vaad in america.
Honestly I felt a little weird as I’ve never heard r Feiner speak so politically but he was on fire about it.
(He tied in how he hates machlokes w parshas korach etc)

Rabbi Feiner is a great man.

 I assume you know, he is the author of all the letters "signed" by the 53 Rabonim. He is the bridge between the left and the right. He also mistakes out down some names when those Rabbis specifically asked not to be out on. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.

The problem is that he, and many others do not know Kashrus and completely trust Rabbi Eisen. I will double check, but I am almost positive there was no recent audit by anybody other than Rabbi Eisen himself.

You can ask Rabbi Feiner if he is aware that the Vaad allows purchasing chometz from C&S. No other Vaad allows that, and is against AKO standards. Ask him if he knows how Seasons has checked colored (purple) kale at times when all other checkers in the tri-state area said it was too infested to get cleaned. Or how the Vaad allows stores to sell infested produce with a sticker "not checked" , when they know it is too infested to clean and the consumer will for sure be eating bugs.

How about did they audit non-jewish and non-sabbath observing owners having full access to their kitchens?

Just some recent examples.

If they were audited by anybody besides Rabbi Eisen himself, they would post an article with pictures showing the expert here.

Rabbi Feiner is a great man. But he is also a little too trusting.

[Sammy82]

Could you stop the rabbi bashing already? Enough. Nobody cares what you have to say. I'm sorry but I don't think people come here for it. Could the moderators please step in?

[Positive energy]

@sammyp what is your personal connection or relationship to 550?

Seems like the son of the owner

[Positive energy]

Rabbi Feiner is a great man.

 I assume you know, he is the author of all the letters "signed" by the 53 Rabonim. He is the bridge between the left and the right. He also mistakes out down some names when those Rabbis specifically asked not to be out on. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.

The problem is that he, and many others do not know Kashrus and completely trust Rabbi Eisen. I will double check, but I am almost positive there was no recent audit by anybody other than Rabbi Eisen himself.

You can ask Rabbi Feiner if he is aware that the Vaad allows purchasing chometz from C&S. No other Vaad allows that, and is against AKO standards. Ask him if he knows how Seasons has checked colored (purple) kale at times when all other checkers in the tri-state area said it was too infested to get cleaned. Or how the Vaad allows stores to sell infested produce with a sticker "not checked" , when they know it is too infested to clean and the consumer will for sure be eating bugs.

How about did they audit non-jewish and non-sabbath observing owners having full access to their kitchens?

Just some recent examples.

If they were audited by anybody besides Rabbi Eisen himself, they would post an article with pictures showing the expert here.

Rabbi Feiner is a great man. But he is also a little too trusting.

Can you please write why the owner of 550 decided to chnage hechsher?
Pleaassee
Thanks!

[Positive energy]

Probably not. Because then the ones who really cause the Chilul Hashem would be in trouble.

What Chilul Hashem are you referring to anyway? 550 didn't even go to court (although they were allowed to). They went to a Beis Din in Brooklyn. That is what Beis Din is made for. To determine who was right according to Halacha. When the Rabbis wouldn't come, and even pulled out of an agreed zabla (this info was missing from article posted on local website), 550 backed down and did not go to court.

550 were the ones who followed the rules. They did not cause any Chillul Hashem.

In fact, one of the most learned and greatest Talmidei Chochomim on town made a simcha at 550 even after the suit was filed in Beis Din. They have some big Rabonim on their side and they did everything quietly and properly.

You owe them an apology.

My question was if they have insurance or they had a great loss , still curious, because i had a talk a while ago with the son of the owner of 550 and told me clearly that his father is here to fix the vaad and he dosen't care even he looses money bechis main business is banners smokefish and has enough money

[Afrages6]

Rabbi Feiner is a great man.

 I assume you know, he is the author of all the letters "signed" by the 53 Rabonim. He is the bridge between the left and the right. He also mistakes out down some names when those Rabbis specifically asked not to be out on. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.

The problem is that he, and many others do not know Kashrus and completely trust Rabbi Eisen. I will double check, but I am almost positive there was no recent audit by anybody other than Rabbi Eisen himself.

You can ask Rabbi Feiner if he is aware that the Vaad allows purchasing chometz from C&S. No other Vaad allows that, and is against AKO standards. Ask him if he knows how Seasons has checked colored (purple) kale at times when all other checkers in the tri-state area said it was too infested to get cleaned. Or how the Vaad allows stores to sell infested produce with a sticker "not checked" , when they know it is too infested to clean and the consumer will for sure be eating bugs.

How about did they audit non-jewish and non-sabbath observing owners having full access to their kitchens?

Just some recent examples.

If they were audited by anybody besides Rabbi Eisen himself, they would post an article with pictures showing the expert here.

Rabbi Feiner is a great man. But he is also a little too trusting.

Have you no shame to attack rabbi feiner in such a way?

[JMHO]

Seems like the son of the owner

I'm thinking that too. He trashes Rabbonim the same way 550s son  does on Facebook.

[JMHO]

Can you please write why the owner of 550 decided to chnage hechsher?
Pleaassee
Thanks!

Because they wanted the new Chumros of M5T 

[JMHO]

Have you no shame to attack rabbi feiner in such a way?

Exactly. It's time for @sammyp to go (at least from this thread)
Prefixing your trashing of one of the most respected and senior Rabbonim of the community by saying he's a great man BUT, doesn't take away from your extreme chutzpah and lack of Kavod Hatorah.

Get lost already.