KVS Master Thread

[Chaikel]

As mentioned previously, the full-featured KVS Tool application requires a full-featured desktop/laptop/netbook to run on (which can be either a PC or a Mac). A tablet/mobile device is not sufficient.

Clearly we realize that, which is exactly the reason it is being requested. If a tablet/mobile devices would already be supported, people would have to be brain dead to ask for a feature which already exists

[daganster]

I have to agree that a functioning mobile version of KVS would be extremely helpful as I tried using the mobile version and it's kind of useless.  It simply something that needs to be worked on ASAP.

[WhyAich]

Clearly we realize that, which is exactly the reason it is being requested. If a tablet/mobile devices would already be supported, people would have to be brain dead to ask for a feature which already exists

+1
The tool and service offered is amazing and helps a lot. It's been a real life saver for us.

 People nowadays are not always by a desktop and laptop. There is definitely a need for a version that's supported for tablets etc.

Looking forward!

[KVS]

I have to agree that a functioning mobile version of KVS would be extremely helpful as I tried using the mobile version and it's kind of useless.  It simply something that needs to be worked on ASAP.

The Mobile Companion is fully functional (for the purposes for which it was intended). If there some specific additional functionality that you feel may be helpful, please do let us know.

Clearly we realize that, which is exactly the reason it is being requested. If a tablet/mobile devices would already be supported, people would have to be brain dead to ask for a feature which already exists

Unfortunately, what is being requested is not something that is feasible for a variety of reasons.

The tool and service offered is amazing and helps a lot. It's been a real life saver for us.

People nowadays are not always by a desktop and laptop. There is definitely a need for a version that's supported for tablets etc.

We are glad that you are enjoying your KVS Tool membership.

There are solutions for accessing the KVS Tool remotely on Tablets and similar devices as Bp and PlatinumGuy have previously noted:

I use team viewer on my ipad to use Kvs

Onlive desktop should work.

[Moishebatchy]

KVS, we all love your tool. There's really no need to be writing its name in bold every time, nor is there any need to bold the names of every member you mention.

That being said... I concur with everyone else here: We would really love to see a "mobile" version of KVS that does everything the desktop version does. I find it extremely difficult to believe that my iPad is capable of rendering a race car crashing into four billion pieces in stunning 3D, yet mysteriously can't pull off a simple text-and-dialog interface as well as my cruddy four-year-old laptop can. Yes, I know there are workarounds like TeamViewer, but with all due respect - the greatest respect - I find it really sad that there can't be an app that does all the KVS functions natively.

#my2cents

[SuperFlyer]

The only onlive that "might" work is costing $10/month.
Kvs is so weirdly programmed that it needs a real Windows
 and nothing else, and I believe it's the registration part that makes this limitation (even if you deny it).

As chaikel pointed out -but good programmers are often terrible businessman- your fear of people using your program without paying, is actually your biggest enemy.
Yes some people might use it without paying for it, but so many more would buy if the REAL KVS was available to more platforms.
Don't beat around the bush and admit it at least.
You are not the only programmer that knows how to protect their work, but the others understand at least that at one point, too much is just too much.

Obviously your business is your business, but we as users suffer from this paranoia....

[KVS]

Don't beat around the bush and admit it at least.

Obviously your business is your business, but we as users suffer from this paranoia....

It's certainly an interesting conspiracy theory, but, in reality, it has no merit.
If anything, device authentication would be easier on those types of devices.

[Moishebatchy]

It's certainly an interesting conspiracy theory, but, in reality, it has no merit.
If anything, device authentication would be easier on those types of devices.

So let's address the elephant in the room once and for all: why, oh why, won't you make a native mobile application that does all of the same functions as the desktop version, when there is clearly a demand for it?

[PETERP]

It's certainly an interesting conspiracy theory, but, in reality, it has no merit.
If anything, device authentication would be easier on those types of devices.

It's a tough crowd 

[Moishebatchy]

It's a tough crowd 

[SuperFlyer]

It's a tough crowd 

Tough, honest, and not so stupid.

I have enough experience in the field to know that the issue we have with all the limitations are due to the paranoia = signup.

You see, people did not complain about the price, which I believe is fair. Awardnexus for instance has a retarded pricing, so people complained about that: On ddf people don't beat around the bush.

Listening to people's advice might just be a good idea.

[KVS]

So let's address the elephant in the room once and for all: why, oh why, won't you make a native mobile application that does all of the same functions as the desktop version, when there is clearly a demand for it?

There are a number of reasons for this decision, both technical and non-technical.
Nevertheless, we acknowledge that there is some demand for it and will certainly take this into consideration going forward.

I have enough experience in the field to know that the issue we have with all the limitations are due to the paranoia = signup.

And we certainly have enough experience in the field to know that there is usually no merit in trying to change one's ideological beliefs, however incorrect they may be .

[SuperFlyer]

I'd agree if I was incorrect.

Hey being a great programmer is fantastic, but rarely does it collide with being business savvy

[KVS]

I'd agree if I was incorrect.

You can also be incorrect without agreeing .

[Moishebatchy]

No disrespect intended, but I feel like I'm pulling teeth here...

There are a number of reasons for this decision, both technical and non-technical.

And what, pray tell, would those be?

[Bp]

@bachy
Why in the world goes he have to tell you his business? No one forced you to buy Kvs.. You come across like a kid in the candy store, you can't take no for a answer,

[Saver2000]

@bachy
Why in the world goes he have to tell you his business? No one forced you to buy Kvs.. You come across like a kid in the candy store, you can't take no for a answer,

Did  you mean " @superflyer" ?

[PETERP]

@bachy
Why in the world goes he have to tell you his business? No one forced you to buy Kvs.. You come across like a kid in the candy store, you can't take no for a answer,

+1. Tough crowd , and very pushy. What do you do when Barclays tells you no , to a second card 

[KVS]

And what, pray tell, would those be?

These reasons include usability, technical characteristics of the devices, the multitude of mobile/tablet platforms, development costs, support issues, distribution issues and a number of others.

[Moishebatchy]

These reasons include usability, technical characteristics of the devices, the multitude of mobile/tablet platforms, development costs, support issues, distribution issues and a number of others.

I hear ya. Valid points. See? Wasn't so hard to tell us...

Suggestion: you could start by, say, making an iPad version (not too many different types of those), and take it from there...