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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #160 on: July 17, 2012, 11:46:05 PM »
I'm not sure what ure trying to say

For a limited number of carriers, Award Availability via the [Galileo: ETR] Method is more accurate than via [Sabre: FS] -- as you have discovered, LY is one of those.

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #161 on: July 18, 2012, 03:53:52 AM »
For a limited number of carriers, Award Availability via the [Galileo: ETR] Method is more accurate than via [Sabre: FS] -- as you have discovered, LY is one of those.
so why don't you have written on the website the carriers that sabre displays inaccurate information for??     i spent 20 minutes on hold with aa to book an award ticket only to find out that sabre is inaccurate for ly

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #162 on: July 18, 2012, 04:16:56 AM »
so why don't you have written on the website the carriers that sabre displays inaccurate information for??     i spent 20 minutes on hold with aa to book an award ticket only to find out that sabre is inaccurate for ly
Why dont you use the LY website?

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #163 on: July 18, 2012, 05:35:52 AM »
Why dont you use the LY website?
much quicker with kvs

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #164 on: July 18, 2012, 05:46:08 AM »
much quicker with kvs
Not if its wrong ;)

I wasnt referring to generally, rather your above post. I thought you meant you spent 20 min trying to find an agent to book it. If the first agent said no, I would double check on LY.com or EF (am I allowed to say that in this thread?)

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #165 on: July 18, 2012, 06:03:06 AM »
Not if its wrong ;)

I wasnt referring to generally, rather your above post. I thought you meant you spent 20 min trying to find an agent to book it. If the first agent said no, I would double check on LY.com or EF (am I allowed to say that in this thread?)
20 minutes on hold.         but ya, that would be the best way to double check.      speaking of ef, are there any limits to the number of alerts you can set?  if i'm looking for 20 different routes to tlv through europe can i set an alert for each route?

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #166 on: July 18, 2012, 06:05:40 AM »
20 minutes on hold.         but ya, that would be the best way to double check.      speaking of ef, are there any limits to the number of alerts you can set?  if i'm looking for 20 different routes to tlv through europe can i set an alert for each route?
30 at one time IIRC.

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #167 on: July 18, 2012, 08:06:51 AM »
30 at one time IIRC.
and how up to date are they?  (ie, about how much lag is there b/w avail showing up and the alert being sent out)

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #168 on: July 18, 2012, 08:09:05 AM »
and how up to date are they?  (ie, about how much lag is there b/w avail showing up and the alert being sent out)
Its a little hard to tell.

Though every time Ive gotten an alert the seat was still available to book.

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #169 on: July 18, 2012, 08:12:43 AM »
Its a little hard to tell.

Though every time Ive gotten an alert the seat was still available to book.
that's a great deal.   are there any major places where it's lacking?  any major airlines it can't search for?

i just took a quick look and it seems like its missing tons of airlines for award inventory...   lh, austrian, usair are just the first ones that popped out at me
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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #170 on: July 18, 2012, 11:41:41 PM »
so why don't you have written on the website the carriers that sabre displays inaccurate information for??     i spent 20 minutes on hold with aa to book an award ticket only to find out that sabre is inaccurate for ly

This is the 1st time this issue has been reported for LY.
The KVS Tool User Guide has now been updated accordingly: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#LY

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #171 on: July 21, 2012, 07:06:49 PM »
This is the 1st time this issue has been reported for LY.
The KVS Tool User Guide has now been updated accordingly: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#LY
ok, thanks.   from your previous response it had sounded like you were already aware of the issue, hence my frustration.   

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #172 on: July 22, 2012, 05:43:36 PM »
i downloaded KVS Tools, is there a way to register w/out paying?

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #173 on: September 05, 2012, 08:28:16 AM »
2 Problems today.

1. I had to re-register kvs, it had forgotten my details (I did not update it).

2. Searching KHH-CDG it found a First on a plane that doesn't have any. (however searching leg by leg it does)


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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #174 on: September 05, 2012, 05:34:17 PM »
2 Problems today.

1. I had to re-register kvs, it had forgotten my details (I did not update it).

Could you please clarify what happened, exactly?

2. Searching KHH-CDG it found a First on a plane that doesn't have any. (however searching leg by leg it does)

This issue will be resolved in the next update -- the correct display should be:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]
Code: [Select]
KHH  Kaohsiung Intl TW [RCKH]
CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
THU  22 Nov 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
KA         457     KHH   21:15     HKG   22:45     333  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS@
 -> CX     261     HKG   23:50     CDG   06:10 +1  77W  0   FS@  CS@  WS/  YS@
KA         457     KHH   21:15     HKG   22:45     333  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS+
 -> CX     279     HKG   00:55 +1  CDG   07:20 +1  343  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS+
KA         455     KHH   19:05     HKG   20:35     321  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS@
 -> CX     261     HKG   23:50     CDG   06:10 +1  77W  0   FS@  CS@  WS/  YS@
KA         455     KHH   19:05     HKG   20:35     321  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS+
 -> CX     279     HKG   00:55 +1  CDG   07:20 +1  343  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS+
KA         437     KHH   15:05     HKG   16:35     333  0   FS@  CS@  WS/  YS@
 -> CX     261     HKG   23:50     CDG   06:10 +1  77W  0   FS@  CS@  WS/  YS@
KA         437     KHH   15:05     HKG   16:35     333  0   FS@  CS@  WS/  YS+
 -> CX     279     HKG   00:55 +1  CDG   07:20 +1  343  0   FS/  CS@  WS/  YS+

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #175 on: September 08, 2012, 01:56:51 PM »
Wow, severe KVS downgrade. You no longer can use it to search for elite availability on UA. Very upsetting. I guess we just have to use EF.

EDIT: Apparently EF pulled this too. It's a UA decision. :(
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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #176 on: September 08, 2012, 10:56:00 PM »
Wow, severe KVS downgrade. You no longer can use it to search for elite availability on UA. Very upsetting. I guess we just have to use EF.

EDIT: Apparently EF pulled this too. It's a UA decision. :(

Crazy. Hopefully it's just a change to their protocol/site and it'll be back as soon as KVS/EF program it to work, otherwise this is sad :(
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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #177 on: September 08, 2012, 10:57:52 PM »
Crazy. Hopefully it's just a change to their protocol/site and it'll be back as soon as KVS/EF program it to work, otherwise this is sad :(
Its an UA official change

This may be their biggest mistake since the merger
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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #178 on: September 08, 2012, 11:12:35 PM »
Its an UA official change

This may be their biggest mistake since the merger
Seems they don't like so many scrapers.

And with all the glitches with upgrades, lack of transparency makes it much easier to do whatever they want.

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Re: KVS Master Thread
« Reply #179 on: September 09, 2012, 12:33:00 AM »
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