FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested

[Dave321]

Why would someone who has money want more? Hmm...

Do you know to whom I am referring to? He is beyond wealthy.....

[sky121]

Do you know to whom I am referring to? He is beyond wealthy.....

I don't think they did anything for the money. But it seems like it was an added 'perk'.

[Ergel]

I don't think one side is allowed to pay the judges. And 10k is definitely more than schar batalah. Wouldn't that passul all those gittin?

[rots5]

sky lets get this straight, the main person doesnt want money.... i know him VERY well. his rich shver built him an empire, a vey long lasting one. i dont know his BA numbers but i know hes not in it for the lousy 20k.

[sky121]

Random thought - but I don't get why the Rabbi would go into such detail with all the information.

What happened to just saying "Dont, worry. We'll  take care of it?"

[sky121]

sky lets get this straight, the main person doesnt want money.... i know him VERY well. his rich shver built him an empire, a vey long lasting one. i dont know his BA numbers but i know hes not in it for the lousy 20k.

I have no idea who wanted what.  But if someone's saying "Why would someone wealthy want the money" I think it's good to remember that money makes people do crazy things. Now, I wasn't talking about any of the people involved specifically. Just stating why a comment like that isn't necessarily correct.

[dd321]

I feel like we're missing something from this story.

They claim the "husband" and "wife" were undercover FBI agents posing as orthodox jews, I don't see how they could've spoken to the rabbonim etc. for more than 2 minutes without them getting suspicious.

And would this B"D really go through all this without doing any basic investigation of their own into the case, i.e. without speaking to anybody (other than the "wife" and her "brother") familiar with the case, such as whatever Rabonim were involved up to that point?

+1 unless they were modox

[rots5]

I have no idea who wanted what.  But if someone's saying "Why would someone wealthy want the money" I think it's good to remember that money makes people do crazy things. Now, I wasn't talking about any of the people involved specifically. Just stating why a comment like that isn't necessarily correct.

100% agree. though i believe a lot of ppl know these rabbis and such, WELL,  that its hard to comprehend the full story

[sky121]

100% agree. though i believe a lot of ppl know these rabbis and such, WELL, that its hard to comprehend the full story

Which part?

The money?

[rots5]

Which part?

The money?

for me its a big part i am trying to figure out. in addition, how ppl can be so happy this happened to them

[Ergel]

100% agree. though i believe a lot of ppl know these rabbis and such, WELL,  that its hard to comprehend the full story

Eh, I stopped buying that argument years ago (not saying what's true or isn't true here. But at this point nothing is too hard to believe)

[sky121]

for me its a big part i am trying to figure out. in addition, how ppl can be so happy this happened to them

The only people who would be happy about this are those who don't believe that the Rabbis should be resorting to physical violence and threatening.  And I can hear that point of view. And I imagine there are husbands out there happy about this as well.

Otherwise, it's just very sad.  We obviously don't really know all the details.  Were they taking advantage of the situation for financial gain? Maybe. Do I agree with that? No.  Were they really looking into each case as they should? I hope so.

Either way, it's awful.  For themselves, for their families. For the community.

[rots5]

The only people who would be happy about this are those who don't believe that the Rabbis should be resorting to physical violence and threatening.  And I can hear that point of view. And I imagine there are husbands out there happy about this as well.

Otherwise, it's just very sad.  We obviously don't really know all the details.  Were they taking advantage of the situation for financial gain? Maybe. Do I agree with that? No.  Were they really looking into each case as they should? I hope so.

Either way, it's awful.  For themselves, for their families. For the community.

ur so right! the end

Eh, I stopped buying that argument years ago (not saying what's true or isn't true here. But at this point nothing is too hard to believe)

its very poss.

[alpicone]

The fact that people would actually pay $70k means they were very desperate an there weren't any other reasonable options.

Right or wrong the current system leaves a lot to be desired.

[aygart]

Appalling! I don't read comments in general, and I'm sure glad I'm not reading any on THIS story.

I have no idea what the heter is to read some of those sites. They can be a real kat misaprei lashon hara

[DovtheBear]

I have no idea what the heter is to read some of those sites.

Who said there is?

[meshugener]

There's no excuse for a husband not to give a get for his wife, if that's what she wish.

Sometimes, there's NO WAY for a women to be freed without forcing the husband to give a get.

Hit-mans do a very risky work and $50k is a reasonable price to pay them.

So what do you guys expect from a women looking to be freed, begin a stable life and raising a family?

Sometimes you MUST go this route.

Anyone disagree?

[DovtheBear]

There's no excuse for a husband not to give a get for his wife, if that's what she wish.

Sometimes, there's NO WAY for a women to be freed without forcing the husband to give a get.

Hit-mans do a very risky work and $50k is a reasonable price to pay them.

So what do you guys expect from a women looking to be freed, begin a stable life and raising a family?

Sometimes you MUST go this route.

Anyone disagree?

Apparently, to an extent, Jewish law agrees with you.

[Achas Veachas]

There's no excuse for a husband not to give a get for his wife, if that's what she wish.

Sometimes, there's NO WAY for a women to be freed without forcing the husband to give a get.

Hit-mans do a very risky work and $50k is a reasonable price to pay them.

So what do you guys expect from a women looking to be freed, begin a stable life and raising a family?

Sometimes you MUST go this route.

Anyone disagree?

+50K

[sky121]

Unfortunately, Jewish law isn't the problem at the moment.