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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #340 on: October 14, 2013, 05:08:43 AM »
But again, doesn't it have to be paid by both sides so that there is no possible bribery chashash? You're more aware than I am of all the chumras which exist in this arena...
SF mehalach (paying the org) should work to avoid that problem.

I'll let try to look it up later today.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #341 on: October 14, 2013, 05:10:59 AM »
SF mehalach (paying the org) should work to avoid that problem.

I'll let try to look it up later today.
But in this case, it seems like the payment was made directly to the bais din.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #342 on: October 14, 2013, 05:56:58 AM »
Whens the trial to begin?
Expect a plea bargain in this case.
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #343 on: October 14, 2013, 06:48:36 AM »
FYI, the end of the file w/ the story doesn't say anything about a cattle prod being taken from the scene. I wonder if that was just bravado.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #344 on: October 14, 2013, 06:51:30 AM »
FYI, the end of the file w/ the story doesn't say anything about a cattle prod being taken from the scene. I wonder if that was just bravado.
Was wondering the same.
And if you look at my comments upthread you'll see I had the same questions as you regarding the schar battalah here. I hope to have an answer for you later
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #345 on: October 14, 2013, 09:38:47 AM »
I understand, but police are aware that people can be hurt w/o evidence being left.
Isn't it a sad state of affairs when s/o will be more ostracized for this than for causing an agunah?


I haven't read the court docs, so maybe s/o can fill me in. How did the FBI get wind of this?
There has been insinuation in some reports that the case grew out of cooperation by 2 Jewish defendants in a similar case.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #346 on: October 14, 2013, 09:49:45 AM »
There has been insinuation in some reports that the case grew out of cooperation by 2 Jewish defendants in a similar case.
Not necessarily cooperation but possibly that case just brought the fact that this is going on to the surface. 

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #347 on: October 14, 2013, 10:42:30 AM »
Not necessarily cooperation but possibly that case just brought the fact that this is going on to the surface.
Anything is possible, but the news stories are certainly trying to (not so) subtly paint a different picture. The same special agent signed both complaints and the defendants in the old case have not even been indicted yet though it has been 2 years. Their lawyer has said they were not cooperating with law enforcement. So again, no one really knows except the FBI.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #348 on: October 14, 2013, 10:56:08 AM »
So again, no one really knows except the FBI.
...and they are not talking.  :)
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #349 on: October 14, 2013, 11:16:42 AM »
The Rabbis who have permitted Aliyot and attended football games with husbands who were
withholding 'gets' are the same Rabbis who tell the husband that they will
help him collect the $200,000, plus the deed to the
family house, and then the man will agree to give the 'get'.


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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #350 on: October 14, 2013, 12:29:16 PM »
...and they are not talking.  :)
And it took 35 pages for everyone too start realizing that......::)
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #351 on: October 14, 2013, 12:40:13 PM »
...and they are not talking.  :)

I know some other people that aren't talking (pun intended)

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #352 on: October 14, 2013, 01:13:31 PM »
Nevertheless it's assur, dayanim get paid for Schar Beteilah.
I am talking about bribery! U wanna b a lamden and say schar beteilah go ahead

If u work for a living, why kill urself working?

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #353 on: October 14, 2013, 01:28:08 PM »
Any1 on the forum have any connection or some relation to the Jewish thugs or they r real spooks?

If u work for a living, why kill urself working?

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #354 on: October 14, 2013, 01:51:03 PM »
I am talking about bribery! U wanna b a lamden and say schar beteilah go ahead


English please?!

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #355 on: October 14, 2013, 02:08:26 PM »
i know one of them... whats ur q?

i can say its very possible that this 'thug' went thru his own issues with am ex wife like clowns, who knows! but i know one non the less.
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #356 on: October 14, 2013, 02:37:40 PM »
i know one of them... whats ur q?

i can say its very possible that this 'thug' went thru his own issues with am ex wife like clowns, who knows! but i know one non the less.
I asked bec Maybe if they share some info (like @clown did) then we might have more clarity

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #357 on: October 14, 2013, 02:48:39 PM »
Any1 on the forum have any connection or some relation to the Jewish thugs or they r real spooks?


You are barking up the wrong tree.
Anyone who knows isn't telling, and anyone who tells does not know.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #358 on: October 14, 2013, 02:50:23 PM »
I asked bec Maybe if they share some info (like @clown did) then we might have more clarity


Good luck on getting them to share info while going through a court case.
First thing they need is Alan Dershowitz to defend them, and then they can publish their life memoirs when it's all done.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #359 on: October 14, 2013, 02:50:49 PM »
You are barking up the wrong tree.
Anyone who knows isn't telling, and anyone who tells does not know.
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