Author Topic: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested (Read 169880 times)

Bostener · « **Reply #680 on:** March 17, 2014, 08:34:07 PM »

Quote from: Hirshthg on March 17, 2014, 08:23:25 PM

So the reason they just plead guilty without a deal is?
I am not sure you actually read my post.

How do you know it was with out a deal?

CountValentine · « **Reply #681 on:** March 17, 2014, 08:57:14 PM »

Quote from: dans fan on March 14, 2014, 05:02:56 PM

exactly my point. the reason why they go after the top guys is bc they are the masterminds running the operation and if you cut the head off the tail dies. but here that isnt the case if there are no masterminds there are no top guys to chase

This isn't the mafia they are going after. You don't think there was a guy calling the shots here?

Aaaron · « **Reply #682 on:** March 17, 2014, 09:33:13 PM »

Quote from: Hirshthg on March 17, 2014, 08:23:25 PM

So the reason they just plead guilty without a deal is?
I am not sure you actually read my post.

This:

Quote from: Bostener on March 17, 2014, 08:34:07 PM

How do you know it was with out a deal?

Hirshthg · « **Reply #683 on:** March 17, 2014, 10:01:38 PM »

Quote from: Bostener on March 17, 2014, 08:34:07 PM

How do you know it was with out a deal?

That was the pretense of the discussion and my comment on Aaron's comment. Please see above.
I personally suspect that there either was a deal or that the defendants think that they are getting a deal compared to what they could be charged with.

Bostener · « **Reply #684 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:08:00 PM »

Quote from: Hirshthg on March 17, 2014, 08:23:25 PM

So the reason they just plead guilty without a deal is?

Aaaron · « **Reply #685 on:** March 17, 2014, 11:37:35 PM »

Quote from: Hirshthg on March 17, 2014, 10:01:38 PM

That was the pretense of the discussion and my comment on Aaron's comment. Please see above.
I personally suspect that there either was a deal or that the defendants think that they are getting a deal compared to what they could be charged with.

What pretense? I think we're all assuming there was a deal.

Something Fishy · « **Reply #686 on:** March 25, 2014, 06:40:33 PM »

Another one...

http://www.vosizneias.com/159548/2014/03/25/trenton-nj-5th-man-pleads-guilty-in-forcing-religious-divorce-gang/

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #687 on:** March 25, 2014, 07:20:06 PM »

Assuming it was all done K'Din, there might be an element of Kiduush Hashem in admitting it (as opposed to contesting it).

elikay · « **Reply #688 on:** March 26, 2014, 05:08:16 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on March 25, 2014, 07:20:06 PM

Assuming it was all done K'Din, there might be an element of Kiduush Hashem in admitting it (as opposed to contesting it).

Interesting twist, but valid point nontheless.

CountValentine · « **Reply #689 on:** April 02, 2014, 07:42:17 AM »

So who is left?

dovy2 · « **Reply #690 on:** April 02, 2014, 08:44:52 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on April 02, 2014, 07:42:17 AM

So who is left?

our guy?

MarkS · « **Reply #691 on:** May 06, 2014, 05:36:01 PM »

Plea deal probably now complete, the informant pleads guilty
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/Wax,%20David%20Plea%20PR.html

Bostener · « **Reply #692 on:** May 06, 2014, 06:31:41 PM »

Is this also related to the Epstein case?

MarkS · « **Reply #693 on:** May 06, 2014, 06:38:36 PM »

Seems he used some of these guys and once he was caught gave info that led to the Epstein Wolmark sting

http://www.app.com/article/20140506/NJNEWS14/305060029/Lakewood-rabbi-admits-plot-kidnap-Orthodox-Jewish-man-force-religious-divorce

rots5 · « **Reply #694 on:** May 09, 2014, 08:48:32 AM »

Quote from: MarkS on May 06, 2014, 06:38:36 PM

Seems he used some of these guys and once he was caught gave info that led to the Epstein Wolmark sting

http://www.app.com/article/20140506/NJNEWS14/305060029/Lakewood-rabbi-admits-plot-kidnap-Orthodox-Jewish-man-force-religious-divorce

I dont want to go to hell but THAT guy is a very bad person. this guy is a 100% moiser!! They fbi came to him and he as moiser pleaded with them to let him off if he gets even bigger fish!

sky121 · « **Reply #695 on:** May 09, 2014, 08:53:37 AM »

At the end of the day they all knew what they were doing and knew they risked getting caught.

It's really just a sad story.

Yitz · « **Reply #696 on:** May 09, 2014, 08:58:12 AM »

Quote from: sky121 on May 09, 2014, 08:53:37 AM

At the end of the day they all knew what they were doing and knew they risked getting caught.

It's really just a sad story.

+1

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #697 on:** May 09, 2014, 09:03:22 AM »

Quote from: sky121 on May 09, 2014, 08:53:37 AM

At the end of the day they all knew what they were doing and knew they risked getting caught.

It's really just a sad story.

That doesn't take away from the guilt of the one who was actually Mosser.

rots5 · « **Reply #698 on:** May 09, 2014, 09:05:22 AM »

Quote from: sky121 on May 09, 2014, 08:53:37 AM

At the end of the day they all knew what they were doing and knew they risked getting caught.

It's really just a sad story.

100% Wrong. sorry to disagree, but its a fellow jew who outed them. Do you know what is said aboout a moiser in klall yisroel?! apparently it must be up there in the bad sins one can do.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #699 on:** May 09, 2014, 09:10:36 AM »

A muser is a muser is a muser.
Nothing else matters in Jewish law.

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