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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #420 on: October 16, 2013, 07:28:36 PM »
more positive he has the case
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #421 on: October 16, 2013, 09:36:36 PM »
you know that for a fact?

Brafmans partner got the case. Marc A. Agnifilo

Just for Wolmark. I doubt anyone else can afford their fees....

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #422 on: October 16, 2013, 09:46:52 PM »
Not always smart to have a rockstar lawyer.... 

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #423 on: October 16, 2013, 09:48:48 PM »

Not always smart to have a rockstar lawyer....
explain

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #424 on: October 16, 2013, 11:22:26 PM »
explain
attracts media, it becomes a circus, prosecutors need to prove themselves against the star and its harder to cut a deal.
Not to go OT, but IMHO a big part of what went wrong with rubashkin was the publicity...

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #425 on: October 16, 2013, 11:24:49 PM »
Rubashkin had tons of publicity from the day they raided his business with helicopters.
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #426 on: October 16, 2013, 11:32:45 PM »
attracts media, it becomes a circus, prosecutors need to prove themselves against the star and its harder to cut a deal.
Not to go OT, but IMHO a big part of what went wrong with rubashkin was the publicity...

rubashkin was a publicity stunt for the Feds. It has nothing to do with the lawyers. The publicity was everywhere way before.

W's lawyer use to be assistant U.S. Attorney in NJ. He knows the ropes....

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #427 on: October 16, 2013, 11:35:08 PM »
I'm not blaming anyone for rubashkin, just pointing out that publicity is bad.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #428 on: October 17, 2013, 12:23:23 AM »
Not always smart to have a rockstar lawyer....
Seem to work for OJ.  :)
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #429 on: October 17, 2013, 08:32:52 AM »

rubashkin was a publicity stunt for the Feds. It has nothing to do with the lawyers. The publicity was everywhere way before.

W's lawyer use to be assistant U.S. Attorney in NJ. He knows the ropes....

There are many former AUSA in NY and NJ who know the ropes and are very qualified. You may not know their names but I would chose them over the more famous ones for the reasons articulated above.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #430 on: October 17, 2013, 08:39:10 AM »

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #431 on: October 17, 2013, 08:44:56 AM »

Seem to work for OJ.  :)

...though he's still in jail.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #432 on: October 17, 2013, 08:53:01 AM »
...though he's still in jail.
but now he's in for the crime of stupidity, and sometimes even top lawyers can't fix that one
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #433 on: October 17, 2013, 09:03:51 AM »
Guys if we can please get together and support the young Rov a father of small children who happened to be there for shimush, this is real pidyun shvuim.  Many on ddf know him and he is a member here. Please help http://goo.gl/kj0tKs

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #434 on: October 17, 2013, 12:35:01 PM »
Guys if we can please get together and support the young Rov a father of small children who happened to be there for shimush, this is real pidyun shvuim.  Many on ddf know him and he is a member here. Please help http://goo.gl/kj0tKs

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I know and can vouch for him. I gave what I can, please give too

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #435 on: October 17, 2013, 12:40:56 PM »
I know and can vouch for him. I gave what I can, please give too
Sorry to be insensitive, but what are you vouching for? That he wasn't involved? He wasn't there? He didn't know what was going to happen?
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #436 on: October 17, 2013, 12:45:55 PM »
Guys if we can please get together and support the young Rov a father of small children who happened to be there for shimush, this is real pidyun shvuim.  Many on ddf know him and he is a member here. Please help http://goo.gl/kj0tKs
Happened to be where? At the "beis din" in Monsey? At the kidnapping site?

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #437 on: October 17, 2013, 12:49:05 PM »
Happened to be where? At the "beis din" in Monsey? At the kidnapping site?
George- Shimush at the kidnapping site? Really?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #438 on: October 17, 2013, 12:50:59 PM »
George- Shimush at the kidnapping site? Really?
Exactly my point. Shimush at a fake beis din?

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Re: FBI Sting Operation; Rabbis Arrested
« Reply #439 on: October 17, 2013, 01:04:22 PM »
Sorry to be insensitive, but what are you vouching for? That he wasn't involved? He wasn't there? He didn't know what was going to happen?
Vouch for him personally, don't know about the case but I definitely wouldn't take the fbi side of the story as the word of God. I know that he is a person who devotes his life to upholding and spreading Torah