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Chagas
« on: October 14, 2013, 03:47:05 PM »
Wow, I learnt something new here - Chagas...
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 10:49:33 AM by Dan »
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 06:26:35 PM »
Wow, I learnt something new here - Chagas...

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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 12:43:31 AM »
Wow, I learnt something new here - Chagas...
Care to share?
Good to hear :)
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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 07:51:48 PM »
Care to share?
I grew up in a mixed community with Chabad, Chassidish and Litvish families. I never heard that word before afair. Interesting. I will liat.
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 09:38:03 PM »
I grew up in a mixed community with Chabad, Chassidish and Litvish families. I never heard that word before afair. Interesting. I will liat.
:D Me too.
I meant to ask if you could share what it means.
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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 10:23:31 PM »
It's "Chabadspeak" for 'Polish' Chassidim who traditionally put the stress on Avoda of Midos (CHesed, Gevurah Tiferes (ChaGa"S)), as opposed to Chabad Chassidim who put the stress on Avoda of the mind (CHochma, Bina, Da'as (ChaBa"D)).

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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 10:31:58 PM »
It's "Chabadspeak" for 'Polish' Chassidim who traditionally put the stress on Avoda of Midos (CHesed, Gevurah Tiferes (ChaGa"S)), as opposed to Chabad Chassidim who put the stress on Avoda of the mind (CHochma, Bina, Da'as (ChaBa"D)).
I figured something along those lines.
Thanks.
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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 03:53:56 AM »
It's "Chabadspeak" for 'Polish' Chassidim who traditionally put the stress on Avoda of Midos (CHesed, Gevurah Tiferes (ChaGa"S)), as opposed to Chabad Chassidim who put the stress on Avoda of the mind (CHochma, Bina, Da'as (ChaBa"D)).
In other words, non-Chabad Chassidim (?)
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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 07:34:38 AM »
In other words, non-Chabad Chassidim (?)
Yup

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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 09:32:41 AM »
There were other non lubavitch Chabad chassidim but none made it past the Nazi era.

http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Judaism/Is-Chabad-Lubavitch
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Re: Host A DansDeals Seminar?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 10:13:20 AM »
There were other non lubavitch Chabad chassidim but none made it past the Nazi era.

http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Judaism/Is-Chabad-Lubavitch
very interesting. Are any of this Rabbi Aharon Halevi Horowitz's seforim available?
The article mentions that he was a prolific writer

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2013, 12:10:44 PM »
There were other non lubavitch Chabad chassidim but none made it past the Nazi era.

http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Judaism/Is-Chabad-Lubavitch

There still is at least 2 communities (Monsey and Williamsburg) non-Lubavitch Chabad chasidim a/k/a Malachim.

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013, 01:13:04 PM »
Thanks mods for splitting off this thread.

Does anyone know the difference or connection between the nine un nintziger Chassidim and the Malachim?
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013, 01:42:54 PM »
Thanks mods for splitting off this thread.

Does anyone know the difference or connection between the nine un nintziger Chassidim and the Malachim?
I never heard that term.

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2013, 07:52:51 PM »
very interesting. Are any of this Rabbi Aharon Halevi Horowitz's seforim available?
I have seen some of his Ma'amarim in Moondshine's Chiburim, I think in Migdal Oz?
Interesting stuff - one sticks out in particular - the spiritual significance of Dmey P"N (money given to a Rebbe along with a Pidyon), isn't it plain bribery? He goes on to explain it phenomenally.

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2013, 08:04:22 PM »
Here is the link to Migdal Oz:
http://hebrewbooks.org/24743
Tons of interesting (and "off the track") stuff, if you have the time to go through it.

Interesting stuff - one sticks out in particular - the spiritual significance of Dmey P"N (money given to a Rebbe along with a Pidyon), isn't it plain bribery? He goes on to explain it phenomenally.
Here it is, starts at very bottom of page.
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=24743&st=&pgnum=379

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2013, 08:14:25 PM »
There were other non lubavitch Chabad chassidim but none made it past the Nazi era.
Actually, already a couple decades before.
 
There still is at least 2 communities (Monsey and Williamsburg) non-Lubavitch Chabad chasidim a/k/a Malachim.
I wouldn't exactly put them in the same league as the other dynasties cited in the article that Dan linked to.
And I will stop right there.

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 02:52:02 AM »
I never heard that term.

Anyone here heard of the ניין און ניינציגער Chassidim?
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 04:01:20 AM »

Anyone here heard of the ניין און ניינציגער Chassidim?
sounds more like a kiddush club that liked heavy booze

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Re: Chagas
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2013, 07:41:43 AM »
sounds more like a kiddush club that liked heavy booze
That would be זעקס און ניינציקער...