Author Topic: Fdu in's and out's (Read 21415 times)

rots5 · « **Reply #80 on:** October 21, 2013, 03:47:45 PM »

i would love to help!

the issue is i would rather not right the real ins and outs. my parents keep buggin me that it can only do harm if its spelled out, so i will right just basics and hopefully ppl will be smart enough to ask for the details

Vosizderneias · « **Reply #81 on:** October 21, 2013, 04:09:28 PM »

Quote from: rots5 on October 21, 2013, 03:47:45 PM

i would love to help!

the issue is i would rather not right the real ins and outs. my parents keep buggin me that it can only do harm if its spelled out, so i will right just basics and hopefully ppl will be smart enough to ask for the details

true point, it can only cause harm if our yeshiva secrets become revealed [evil laugh]

mmermss · « **Reply #82 on:** October 21, 2013, 04:15:00 PM »

Quote from: rots5 on October 21, 2013, 03:47:45 PM

i would love to help!

the issue is i would rather not right the real ins and outs. my parents keep buggin me that it can only do harm if its spelled out, so i will right just basics and hopefully ppl will be smart enough to ask for the details

Am I missing something? What ins and outs are there besides transfer yeshiva credits..takes 10 classes with FDU...take some cleps or dantes...get diploma..move on with life?

mercaz1 · « **Reply #83 on:** October 21, 2013, 04:18:44 PM »

Quote from: mmermss on October 21, 2013, 04:15:00 PM

Am I missing something? What ins and outs are there besides transfer yeshiva credits..takes 10 classes with FDU...take some cleps or dantes...get diploma..move on with life?

+1

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #84 on:** October 21, 2013, 05:55:58 PM »

Oooh the plot thickens

Vosizderneias · « **Reply #85 on:** October 21, 2013, 06:08:36 PM »

Quote from: mmermss on October 21, 2013, 04:15:00 PM

Am I missing something? What ins and outs are there besides transfer yeshiva credits..takes 10 classes with FDU...take some cleps or dantes...get diploma..move on with life?

basically, when moving on with life with the diploma, if the employer or masters program were to find out how easy it was to earn such a degree then perhaps, just perhaps they would prefer a degree that was earned with 4 legit college years and a little bittle of hard work vdal

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #86 on:** October 21, 2013, 06:18:51 PM »

You realize that spending years in yeshiva does add value to a person. Developing analytical skills etc etc.
Most teens spend their time on other pursuits...

ayman · « **Reply #87 on:** October 21, 2013, 07:05:42 PM »

Quote from: Vosizderneias on October 21, 2013, 06:08:36 PM

basically, when moving on with life with the diploma, if the employer or masters program were to find out how easy it was to earn such a degree then perhaps, just perhaps they would prefer a degree that was earned with 4 legit college years and a little bittle of hard work vdal

CMIIW but that should not become an issue. Employers generally will not look at the bachelors degree if the job is one that requires a masters. As was mentioned upthread, todays BA is yesterdays high school diploma.

ayman · « **Reply #88 on:** October 21, 2013, 07:09:11 PM »

Quote from: mmermss on October 21, 2013, 09:37:53 AM

Her class work and the way she acts towards yeshiva guys are not the same. I know this as a fact as two friends of mine went to her office, one dressed in black and white and the other not at all....she was nasty to the "yeshiva" looking one but nice and cooperative to the other one.

Maybe the not-yeshivish looking guy was just a nicer guy than the guy dressed yeshivish?

ayman · « **Reply #89 on:** October 21, 2013, 07:13:15 PM »

Quote from: mordy2005 on October 21, 2013, 11:33:49 AM

Can one get into FDU without a high school diploma or a GED just Yeshivah credits?

I'd be shocked if you could get in w/o either a high school diploma or a GED. As much of a joke as it is, it's still a legitimate University.

Vosizderneias · « **Reply #90 on:** October 22, 2013, 02:50:15 AM »

Quote from: ayman on October 21, 2013, 07:05:42 PM

CMIIW but that should not become an issue. Employers generally will not look at the bachelors degree if the job is one that requires a masters. As was mentioned upthread, todays BA is yesterdays high school diploma.

and what if job doesn't require masters, just a solid bachelors...

Vosizderneias · « **Reply #91 on:** October 22, 2013, 02:51:36 AM »

Quote from: ayman on October 21, 2013, 07:13:15 PM

I'd be shocked if you could get in w/o either a high school diploma or a GED. As much of a joke as it is, it's still a legitimate University.

i know someone that after many hours over phone, and needing to take some prerequisites, got into brooklyn college without high school diploma

mordy2005 · « **Reply #92 on:** October 22, 2013, 05:43:16 AM »

This FDU thing seems like a big joke
I really wonder if it's worth 15k plus

YankyDoodle · « **Reply #93 on:** October 22, 2013, 08:37:43 AM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 21, 2013, 09:23:53 AM

What did you score on your mcats? Where are you in school?

I did quite well on the MCAT and I am currently in a T25 program but the point is that even with this type of degree it is very possible to go to professional school if done correctly.

Ergel · « **Reply #94 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:18:19 AM »

Quote from: YankyDoodle on October 22, 2013, 08:37:43 AM

I did quite well on the MCAT and I am currently in a T25 program but the point is that even with this type of degree it is very possible to go to professional school if done correctly.

IF you do very well on the MCAT/DAT/LSAT, which not everyone can do

Ergel · « **Reply #95 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:19:59 AM »

Give everyone false hope that of you get a 38 on the mcat you'll get into school. Shkoyach

YankyDoodle · « **Reply #96 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:43:51 AM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 22, 2013, 11:18:19 AM

IF you do very well on the MCAT/DAT/LSAT, which not everyone can do

No one's saying it won't take work, especially if you're trying to take a short-cut into medicine (lacking the research/volunteer/shadowing experience that most 4 year graduates accrue) you better show them that you are competitive.

My point was simply that because there are so many other crucial criteria for med school, I don't believe that the schooling will even be on a top-10 list of what most schools screen (if it is screened for at all).

Quote from: Ergel on October 22, 2013, 11:19:59 AM

Give everyone false hope that of you get a 38 on the mcat you'll get into school. Shkoyach

You can't expect to get into competitive programs in NYC with a sub-par MCAT regardless of the schooling. If you're willing to go anywhere (as most med students are) an FDU alum can score a 29-31 and get in without a problem (assuming they have all their other duck in a row)

Ergel · « **Reply #97 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:49:43 AM »

Quote from: YankyDoodle on October 22, 2013, 11:43:51 AM

No one's saying it won't take work, especially if you're trying to take a short-cut into medicine (lacking the research/volunteer/shadowing experience that most 4 year graduates accrue) you better show them that you are competitive.

My point was simply that because there are so many other crucial criteria for med school, I don't believe that the schooling will even be on a top-10 list of what most schools screen (if it is screened for at all).

You can't expect to get into competitive programs in NYC with a sub-par MCAT regardless of the schooling. If you're willing to go anywhere (as most med students are) an FDU alum can score a 29-31 and get in without a problem (assuming they have all their other duck in a row)

Not a top ten? They equally value an application from Columbia and NYU as from FDU?

YankyDoodle · « **Reply #98 on:** October 22, 2013, 12:08:10 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on October 22, 2013, 11:49:43 AM

Not a top ten? They equally value an application from Columbia and NYU as from FDU?

There is value placed on an Ivy League education but the trend in medicine is to value "life experience" as highly if not higher than school.

This would represent a typical list of how a school might rank an applicant:
1) MCAT
2) GPA
3a) Research
3b) Volunteer
5) Personal Statement
6) Diversity
7) Shadowing
8a) Other life experiences
8b) School

If all of the above were equivalent between 2 applicants then school may come into the picture (there are a few notable exceptions that do consider Ivy leaguers higher). Also the only time schooling could generally be an issue is during the initial application phase. Once you've been granted an interview, it's importance drops even more.

AnonymousUser · « **Reply #99 on:** October 24, 2013, 05:02:19 PM »

Quote from: rots5 on October 21, 2013, 03:47:45 PM

i would love to help!

the issue is i would rather not right the real ins and outs. my parents keep buggin me that it can only do harm if its spelled out, so i will right just basics and hopefully ppl will be smart enough to ask for the details

Even if you could just summarize in the wiki everything that was mentioned here, that would be great. You can add a disclaimer that no one should add too much info, and to PM someone for more details.
Thanks!