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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #75 on: October 24, 2013, 01:38:14 PM »
Do you want capitals too?
FTFY

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #76 on: October 24, 2013, 01:45:18 PM »
That's really funny, but down to the point, you still don't agree that there is a good reason to hate bennet?

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #77 on: October 24, 2013, 01:57:20 PM »
That's really funny, but down to the point, you still don't agree that there is a good reason to hate bennet?
Was it paskened that it's a mitzvah to hate him? I'd assume not, b/c if so, then our spiritual leaders in Gimmel and Shas wouldn't have joined with him during the elections. Ma'aseh harav.

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #78 on: October 24, 2013, 02:04:55 PM »
That's really funny, but down to the point, you still don't agree that there is a good reason to hate bennet?
Hate?  No.

Hate is what corrupts the civil dialogue in E"Y. Name calling and hate won't solve any issues.  Learn some history my friend, history of the holy land the last time this many Jews (also of diverse opinions) lived there together.  Fight, hate.  Very productive. 
I know, you'll go blame it on your "gedolim"...

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #79 on: October 24, 2013, 02:11:41 PM »
Hate?  No.

Hate is what corrupts the civil dialogue in E"Y. Name calling and hate won't solve any issues.  Learn some history my friend, history of the holy land the last time this many Jews (also of diverse opinions) lived there together.  Fight, hate.  Very productive. 
I know, you'll go blame it on your "gedolim"...
You write that as if the beis hamikdash was destroyed due to hate.
But this is a GOOD hate. A healthy hate. A religiously mandated hate.
Ask you Rav.

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #80 on: October 24, 2013, 02:25:46 PM »
@BestCards
I can understand your fear of the 'other', but then Gimmel joining with him puts them in the same camp, does it not? Or is Bennet simply evil unless it's politically expedient to join with him?

Don't forget, Gimmel and Shas begged him to join with them, and not Lapid. Why would they have wanted to join with such a person? They should remain far from evil.

He became evil (more like letting everyone know) when rejected just that.
I was rooting for JH in the elections. I and most others didn't know their true colors. Half of my family are DL and they're just as appalled as I.

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #81 on: October 24, 2013, 02:26:58 PM »
He became evil (more like letting everyone know) when rejected just that.
I was rooting for JH in the elections. I and most others didn't know their true colors. Half of my family are DL and they're just as appalled as I.
But they ran on a joint list with him yesterday in a few cities.
Maybe he did tshuva on Monday, thus allowing the rabbanim to allow the joint list?

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2013, 02:29:58 PM »
Hate?  No.

Hate is what corrupts the civil dialogue in E"Y. Name calling and hate won't solve any issues.  Learn some history my friend, history of the holy land the last time this many Jews (also of diverse opinions) lived there together.  Fight, hate.  Very productive. 
I know, you'll go blame it on your "gedolim"...
Oy, I hate (pun intended) when I agree with you. But yes, well said.
And @Best Cards I wasn't attacking you-it was genuinely hard to read your post without punctuation.
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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #83 on: October 24, 2013, 02:30:37 PM »
But they ran on a joint list with him yesterday in a few cities.
Maybe he did tshuva on Monday, thus allowing the rabbanim to allow the joint list?
and then was chozer l'suro on Wednesday
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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #84 on: October 24, 2013, 02:32:26 PM »
If you want to counter a gadol batorah, at least bring an opposing gadol batorah with a counter opinion.

That's how it was in Judaism since forever. That's yiddishkeit.

Bennett listens to a rav?
Walking in public on the street holding hands with his wife, what I saw. That's frum or DL?
His wife is supposedly secular, while he's supposedly a BT from reform. How does such a marriage work exactly.

Yes, I'm also attacking his personal integrity and personal life because so many DL identify with him.

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2013, 02:33:48 PM »
If you want to counter a gadol batorah, at least bring an opposing gadol batorah with a counter opinion.

That's how it was in Judaism since forever. That's yiddishkeit.

Bennett listens to a rav?
Walking in public on the street holding hands with his wife, what I saw. That's frum or DL?
His wife is supposedly secular, while he's supposedly a BT from reform. How does such a marriage work exactly.

Yes, I'm also attacking his personal integrity and personal life because so many DL identify with him.
What exactly is the issur of holding your wife's hand in public? (unless you know his wife was a nidah???)
That's the example you bring to say someone is not shomer torah umitzvos?
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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2013, 02:37:12 PM »
But they ran on a joint list with him yesterday in a few cities.
Maybe he did tshuva on Monday, thus allowing the rabbanim to allow the joint list?

Not all branches of JH are of Lapid-Bennet cronies. There were many nice people in mafdal. Bennett happened to hijack the party. I know many DL that hate Bennett for the same reason we do. Many branches have nothing to do with his leadership.

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #87 on: October 24, 2013, 02:38:34 PM »
What exactly is the issur of holding your wife's hand in public? (unless you know his wife was a nidah???)
That's the example you bring
to say someone is not shomer torah umitzvos?

It's more of a symptom.
And don't make yourself temimusdig. How many frum people do that. And you can ask your rav why it's highly improper.

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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2013, 02:41:02 PM »
It's more of a symptom.
And don't make yourself temimusdig. How many frum people do that. And you can ask your rav why it's highly improper.
I don't think that would be appropriate as he happens to do it.
ETA: so you don't brand me a kofer as well, I happen to not do it (in a place where someone will recognize me)
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Re: Municipal elections in Israel 10/22/13
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2013, 02:54:57 PM »

Don't forget, Gimmel and Shas begged him to join with them, and not Lapid. Why would they have wanted to join with such a person? They should remain far from evil.
And still he decided to go with Lapid, and turn away the Chareidim....

Nobody hated Bennet before that. All started after that. So your point is pointless.
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