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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #510 on: December 05, 2017, 11:11:35 PM »
Prediction?
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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #511 on: December 05, 2017, 11:16:18 PM »
I'm thinking 60/40 Cubs/Padres. I'm guessing Vegas doesn't agree

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #512 on: December 09, 2017, 11:49:42 PM »
I'm thinking 60/40 Cubs/Padres. I'm guessing Vegas doesn't agree
He should have gone national league...

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #513 on: December 10, 2017, 04:31:52 AM »
Strange he didn't pick a contender. Guess that wasn't important to him. And neither was money. Wonder what attracted him to LA
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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #514 on: December 12, 2017, 12:30:20 PM »
Strange he didn't pick a contender. Guess that wasn't important to him. And neither was money. Wonder what attracted him to LA
IMO if he went to a contender (like Durant), and then the team stays a contender it's debatable how good he is, but if he goes to an average team and they become a contender he gets all the credit. I thought San Diego would win unless the Theo effect worked. Kind of like LeBron picking Cleveland (decision #2) where he was looking for potential to win and not a team that won recently.

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #515 on: February 10, 2018, 07:54:45 PM »
What do you think?
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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #516 on: February 10, 2018, 07:55:18 PM »
Fly the double yu

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #517 on: February 11, 2018, 12:35:12 AM »
What do you think?
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YU is a beast.
And, they got him on the cheap. The last FA starting pitcher - who's stuff isn't anywhere near Darvish's stuff - David Price got $217 million (7 years). $126 for 6 years is a bargain for an ace

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #518 on: March 12, 2018, 01:01:28 AM »
Jake Arrieta to Philadelphia: Good news because Brewers, Cardinals and Nationals didn't sign him. Also it makes Philly a division contender (they also signed Carlos Santana), Washington can't coast until the playoffs anymore.

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #519 on: March 12, 2018, 09:56:29 AM »
Arietta has been in the league for 9 years. He had one very good season and one absurdly good season, and otherwise has been average to above average. He's not getting long-term money but he's getting $30 million next year entering age 32.

Maybe I'm just angry at you because you left out an NL East team...

Jake Arrieta to Philadelphia: Good news because Brewers, Cardinals and Nationals didn't sign him. Also it makes Philly a division contender (they also signed Carlos Santana), Washington can't coast until the playoffs anymore.

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #520 on: March 12, 2018, 12:37:54 PM »
Jake Arrieta to Philadelphia: Good news because Brewers, Cardinals and Nationals didn't sign him. Also it makes Philly a division contender (they also signed Carlos Santana), Washington can't coast until the playoffs anymore.
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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #521 on: March 13, 2018, 12:08:23 AM »
Arietta has been in the league for 9 years. He had one very good season and one absurdly good season, and otherwise has been average to above average. He's not getting long-term money but he's getting $30 million next year entering age 32.

Maybe I'm just angry at you because you left out an NL East team...

68-31 2.73 ERA in 4.5 years with the Cubs, plus 5-3 3.08 with 66 strikeouts in 53 innings in the playoffs. Even though YU is better, younger and has more pitches which should help him have a longer career, Arrieta is still really good.
The Phillies won 4 less games than the Mets last year, but they have an improving young team, plus added Santana and Arrieta, they also have tons of $ to spend mid season to add to team if they're close. I know the Mets had injuries last year, but they always do.

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #522 on: March 13, 2018, 10:11:28 AM »
68-31 2.73 ERA in 4.5 years with the Cubs, plus 5-3 3.08 with 66 strikeouts in 53 innings in the playoffs. Even though YU is better, younger and has more pitches which should help him have a longer career, Arrieta is still really good.
The Phillies won 4 less games than the Mets last year, but they have an improving young team, plus added Santana and Arrieta, they also have tons of $ to spend mid season to add to team if they're close. I know the Mets had injuries last year, but they always do.

Again, nice to lump all of his numbers together, but going 22-6 with a 1.77 ERA might skew the overall numbers a bit. (And I assume we don't need a discussion about a W-L record pitching for a team that has won 300 games in the last 3 years).
As for the Phils, you're not way off, but neither Santana nor Arietta (as argued above) is a blue-chip superstar, and the Mets had a few of those on the DL for most of last year. If it happens again, maybe you're right; otherwise, I'll take the Mets over the Phils pretty comfortably.

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #523 on: March 13, 2018, 02:56:45 PM »
Again, nice to lump all of his numbers together, but going 22-6 with a 1.77 ERA might skew the overall numbers a bit. (And I assume we don't need a discussion about a W-L record pitching for a team that has won 300 games in the last 3 years).
As for the Phils, you're not way off, but neither Santana nor Arietta (as argued above) is a blue-chip superstar, and the Mets had a few of those on the DL for most of last year. If it happens again, maybe you're right; otherwise, I'll take the Mets over the Phils pretty comfortably.
W/L isn't a good way to compare pitchers or one of the best stats, but I was trying to keep things simple cause not everyone is up to advanced stats. If it's better let's go with 19.9 WAR over 4.5 years. And the 22-6 1.77, 8.6 WAR season did happen so it does count.
Phils do have a superstar in the making Hoskins, who in less than a third of a season hit 18 HR's and for those counting it's a 2.0 WAR with 1.014 OPS. I'm not saying everything will click in Phila but it might, and it might take till 2019. I'm not too optimistic about Met's hitting, or pitching health, but that's just me.

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Re: Yes, I'm a Cubs Fan
« Reply #524 on: March 13, 2018, 03:01:30 PM »
68-31 2.73 ERA in 4.5 years with the Cubs, plus 5-3 3.08 with 66 strikeouts in 53 innings in the playoffs. Even though YU is better, younger and has more pitches which should help him have a longer career, Arrieta is still really good.
The Phillies won 4 less games than the Mets last year, but they have an improving young team, plus added Santana and Arrieta, they also have tons of $ to spend mid season to add to team if they're close. I know the Mets had injuries last year, but they always do.
if they are close, its because of mets injuries, which means neither is sniffing the playoffs. my point was philly isnt a contender yet. telling me they finished a few games behind an injury ravaged team tells me nothing