Australia (Besides Melbourne And Sydney) Master Thread

[Yehoshua]

If based on pre covid, I would highly highly recommend checking before you get there, because I was there this summer, although not in those places, and almost all the kosher information from Sydney before pandemic was different, most restaurants closed and some opened new, etc. just make sure because nothing from pre pandemic could be reliable in terms of kosher in Australia.

Totally, I was just reporting what was a while ago, it's not current info and anyone should obviously look into it themselves before going and not rely on any info here unless it's specifically said to be current.

[mancunian]

I'm trying to figure out how to fly around the world back from Australia after Pesach.

With kids

What's like the routing for that? Which airlines / miles / where do I start??

TIA!

[Gvann]

For starters it seems like you start in Australia, per your post.

But To where? Where do you want to go on the way? What did you have in mind by “with kids?” Is there somewhere the plane can’t go with your kid on board?

[lcm]

I'm trying to figure out how to fly around the world back from Australia after Pesach.

With kids

What's like the routing for that? Which airlines / miles / where do I start??

TIA!

Offhand, the UAE is probably one of your better options

[mancunian]

For starters it seems like you start in Australia, per your post.

But To where? Where do you want to go on the way? What did you have in mind by “with kids?” Is there somewhere the plane can’t go with your kid on board?

Thanks. Going from Sydney to NY
Kids make it harder to travel, bh. Like would prefer not leaving the airport, not staying overnight...... is that possible?

[Mf1]

Following

[Mf1]

Offhand, the UAE is probably one of your better options

What airline is good for that with miles?

[Gvann]

Thanks. Going from Sydney to NY
Kids make it harder to travel, bh. Like would prefer not leaving the airport, not staying overnight...... is that possible?

So if you don’t want to leave airport why do you want to around the world? Delta flies through lax quite smoothly as I’m sure most us airlines do. Qantas flies to Dallas I think and American can get you back probably on same ticket. If you want to go more exotic you can fly emirates though unless you’re flying business or first and enjoying their massive lounges, not sure if there is a Maila over LAX.

We flew back through lax on delta and used a free night to relax in WA Beverly Hills before continuing on to New York this past summer. We even had a kid with us and it worked out just fine bH.

[Dan]

Because of sefira/shavuos.

[Yehoshua]

Because of sefira/shavuos.

I believe that's only a chabad issue, but still.

[Gvann]

Because of sefira/shavuos.

What’s because of sfira?

[Yehoshua]

What’s because of sfira?

People wanting to not fly over the dateline. If you're lubavich, it messes with your sfira count, since they hold it goes by where you started. If you flew from Australia to the US, you'd celebrate Shavuos a day earlier than they do in the US since you repeated a day coming. Many refrain from crossing it during sefira for this reason.

[Gvann]

People wanting to not fly over the dateline. If you're lubavich, it messes with your sfira count, since they hold it goes by where you started. If you flew from Australia to the US, you'd celebrate Shavuos a day earlier than they do in the US since you repeated a day coming. Many refrain from crossing it during sefira for this reason.

That I never heard of but I definitely hear why not to do it for that reason. But if you fly over both ways then wouldn’t you cancel it out and be back on schedule?

[Dan]

Because he's going for Pesach.

[Gvann]

Because he's going for Pesach.

Oh right, didn’t think that through. But that doesn’t apply for shabbos? Like when you cross date line and now there are 8 days in the week? The week I flew back to the states I put on tefillin 7 times before shabbos 

[Mf1]

Does flying from Sydney to NYC via south Korea cross the dateline

[Dan]

Oh right, didn’t think that through. But that doesn’t apply for shabbos? Like when you cross date line and now there are 8 days in the week? The week I flew back to the states I put on tefillin 7 times before shabbos 

Where does it say U'Sfartem Lachem regarding Shabbos?
Shabbos times are based on your location, not you.

[Dan]

Does flying from Sydney to NYC via south Korea cross the dateline

[lcm]

Does flying from Sydney to NYC via south Korea cross the dateline

Based on the advice I got from @dirah there is a fair chance that flights that go near the north pole may actually go on the other side, and in turn cross the dateline.
Check the flight path history of the flight you are looking for, and see how close it goes.

[Yehoshua]

Based on the advice I got from @dirah there is a fair chance that flights that go near the north pole may actually go on the other side, and in turn cross the dateline.
Check the flight path history of the flight you are looking for, and see how close it goes.

There's truth to that. I was flying LA TO Dubai and went west and over the pole, making for an interesting flight Zmanim-wise. However, to Korea the flights don't get that far north, so I don't think it'll be an issue.