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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2013, 01:13:18 PM »
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2013, 01:59:32 PM »
TLV-Europe is up from 17.5 to 25 in Y.
I'll try posting a summary at some point in the next few days, unless s/o else wants to.

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2013, 02:30:56 PM »
TLV-Europe is up from 17.5 to 25 in Y.
I'll try posting a summary at some point in the next few days, unless s/o else wants to.
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2013, 03:43:04 PM »
All major bloggers need to boycott United by posting this on the top of their websites and removing any links to United based credit cards..

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2013, 06:40:16 PM »
All major bloggers need to boycott United by posting this on the top of their websites and removing any links to United based credit cards..

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2013, 06:59:42 PM »
Riiiight.
Is there a legal case of bait and switch or breach of contract for people who bought miles either outright from UA, or through maximizers?
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2013, 07:22:05 PM »
That's a great question. I'm the first to roll my eyes at people who yell "class action,  class action" but in this case I'd be curious to see.
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #87 on: November 02, 2013, 07:27:57 PM »

That's a great question. I'm the first to roll my eyes at people who yell "class action,  class action" but in this case I'd be curious to see.
Why is this different from any other devaluation? Just because it's extreme?

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #88 on: November 02, 2013, 08:18:22 PM »
Why is this different from any other devaluation? Just because it's extreme?

Exactly
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #89 on: November 02, 2013, 08:49:24 PM »

Exactly
Does it make it more of a bait and switch though?

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2013, 11:51:51 PM »
Exactly
But UA could make the case that if affects a very small subset of their customers b/c a large majority don't use their miles to purchase partner F-class.
@AJK, would that help them at all?

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #91 on: November 02, 2013, 11:54:44 PM »
Middle East - Japan/Australia is now less miles.
How much?
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TLV-Europe is up from 17.5 to 25 in Y.
I'll try posting a summary at some point in the next few days, unless s/o else wants to.
Oy, that's so sad >:(

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2013, 01:25:48 AM »
But UA could make the case that if affects a very small subset of their customers b/c a large majority don't use their miles to purchase partner F-class.
@AJK, would that help them at all?

Not in my non expert opinion. 

They can't say that every member in the class would NOT have redeemed for international first class.
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Re: United raising awards
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2013, 10:40:15 AM »
Why is there no mention on Untied.com about this?
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2013, 10:51:25 AM »
Lol!

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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #97 on: November 04, 2013, 01:24:32 PM »
So you have to do nothing.

Just call at some point and change the ticket.

So I guess it may be possible, if UA uses the pricing scheme based on the date of the ticket, to book LH F months in advance for a mere change fee.

@PlatinumGuy --

Seems like MV is incorrect :P:

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UA Insider had this to say about changes after February 1 to awards booked before February 1:

Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.

Commenter elsie pounced on the comment and asked: “SO should i make a [Lufthansa First] reservation on JAN31 and then change it every two weeks until April when i actually want to fly?”

She’s asking because Lufthansa First Class space is only released to United 15 days in advance, so she can’t book April 2014 in January 2014.

I think it makes a lot of sense to try this, though it is risky.

If you don’t have status and make a change within 21 days of departure, it will cost you $100. Making four such changes would blow through $400. That still would be worth it to pay the old Lufthansa First Class price of 67.5k United miles one way instead of the new price of 110k miles.

But it’s risky.

Say you go to make the change and there is no Lufthansa First Class space on the route you want. Then you can either cancel for $200 and get your miles back or change to a different routing in which case you would be hit with the higher mileage price.


I’ll seriously consider this change-change-change option to get myself an early March flight in Lufthansa First Class for 67,500 miles + tax + change fees.

Seems he'd only have to change once, even after the original flight departs and MV is missing the boat.
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #98 on: November 04, 2013, 01:28:26 PM »
Anyone know what's the story with routing/airline changes with same O/D?
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Re: United raising awards
« Reply #99 on: November 04, 2013, 01:43:24 PM »
Anyone know what's the story with routing/airline changes with same O/D?

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Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.

Seems to imply new pricing.
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