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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #980 on: December 07, 2014, 12:26:34 PM »
Nothing to do with massage.

You only get picked up planeside at a remote-stand at FRA. When that happens, they're comparable. LH has the tarmac drive, TG has the private living room + hour massage.

With TG, everything is just seamless, every time. Gate or remote-stand makes no difference.

Full escort, every single step of the way, buggy through airport, fast track through customs, etc etc. From plane to taxi is ~4 mins.

Unheard of. Really makes a difference.
TG is awesome in BKK, but my experience with JJ in JFK blew me away.

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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #981 on: December 07, 2014, 12:26:52 PM »
Do you have to be coming in and going out in tg f to get the full service

Nothing to do with massage.

You only get picked up planeside at a remote-stand at FRA. When that happens, they're comparable. LH has the tarmac drive, TG has the private living room + hour massage.

With TG, everything is just seamless, every time. Gate or remote-stand makes no difference.

Full escort, every single step of the way, buggy through airport, fast track through customs, etc etc. From plane to taxi is ~4 mins.

Unheard of. Really makes a difference.

It's great but I still prefer LH because of the KSML and awesome Iced Coffee

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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #982 on: December 08, 2014, 12:46:52 AM »
Well, if I wasn't impressed by TG ground service already:

Flew to HKG in the new A380 and was met on arrival on the jet way in *HKG* by staff with a buggy who drove us all the way to immigration. 

TG does better ground service in a non hub airport than 90% of Airlines do at their hubs.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #983 on: December 11, 2014, 08:45:46 PM »
Tougher to do than I'd imagine, and I probably could be convinced to move a couple up or down slightly (likely due to conflating hard v. soft), but here's an update:

Hard Product:

1a.      EY F on A346 (JFK-AUH)
1b.      SQ R on A380 (HKG-SIN-AKL)    
2.     QF F on A380 (DXB-LHR)
3.     LH F on 744 (JFK-FRA; FRA-JFK)
4.     EK F on A380 (JFK-DXB-SIN)
5.     CX F on 777 (JFK-YVR, JFK-HKG)
6.     OZ F on A380 (ICN-LAX)
7.     JJ F on 777 (GRU-MIA)
8.     LH F on A380 (FRA-JNB)
9.     LH F on 748 (LAX-FRA)
10.   TG F on A380 (BKK-CDG, BKK-HKG)
11.   AA F on 777 (DFW-GRU)
12.   JL F on 777 (CGK-NRT)
13.   LH F on A340 (FRA-BOS)
14.   BA F on 744 (LHR-JFK)
15.   AA F on A321 T (JFK-LAX)
16.   TG F on 747 (old) (SYD-BKK)


Soft Product (limited to 5):
1.   LH F on 744 (FRA-JFK)
2.   SQ R on A380 (HKG-SIN-AKL)
3.   LH F on A380 (FRA-JNB)
4.   CX F on 777 (JFK-YVR)
5.   QF F on A380 (DXB-LHR)

Ground Service (limited to 5):

1.   TG at BKK
2.   LH at FRA
3.   EK at DXB
4.   EY at AUH
5.   SQ at SIN


Top 5 Bucket List (in order):

EY F on A380
GA F on 777
QR F on A380
MU F on 777
KE F on A380
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #984 on: December 11, 2014, 08:55:00 PM »
Tougher to do than I'd imagine, and I probably could be convinced to move a couple up or down slightly (likely due to conflating hard v. soft), but here's an update:

Hard Product:

1a.   EY F on A346 (JFK-AUH)
1b.   SQ R on A380 (HKG-SIN-AKL)
2.  QF F on A380 (DXB-LHR)
3.  LH F on 744 (JFK-FRA; FRA-JFK)
4.  EK F on A380 (JFK-DXB-SIN)
5.  CX F on 777 (JFK-YVR, JFK-HKG)
6.  OZ F on A380 (ICN-LAX)
7.  JJ F on 777 (GRU-MIA)
8.  LH F on A380 (FRA-JNB)
9.  LH F on 748 (LAX-FRA)
10.TG F on A380 (BKK-CDG, BKK-HKG)
11.AA F on 777 (DFW-GRU)
12.JL F on 777 (CGK-NRT)
13.LH F on A340 (FRA-BOS)
14.BA F on 744 (LHR-JFK)
15.AA F on A321 T (JFK-LAX)
16.TG F on 747 (old) (SYD-BKK)


Soft Product (limited to 5):
1.LH F on 744 (FRA-JFK)
2.SQ R on A380 (HKG-SIN-AKL)
3.LH F on A380 (FRA-JNB)
4.CX F on 777 (JFK-YVR)
5.QF F on A380 (DXB-LHR)

Ground Service (limited to 5):

1.TG at BKK
2.LH at FRA
3.EK at DXB
4.EY at AUH
5.SQ at SIN


Top 5 Bucket List (in order):

EY F on A380
GA F on 777
QR F on A380
MU F on 777
KE F on A380



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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #985 on: December 11, 2014, 08:57:23 PM »
Did you ever do EY 777? Is it the same product as the A346?

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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #986 on: December 11, 2014, 08:58:17 PM »
Did you ever do EY 777? Is it the same product as the A346?

Same product, yep.

Just make sure you don't get a wet-leased plane from 9W.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #987 on: December 11, 2014, 08:58:55 PM »
Same product, yep.

Just make sure you don't get a wet-leased plane from 9W.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #988 on: December 17, 2014, 03:31:48 PM »
Tougher to do than I'd imagine, and I probably could be convinced to move a couple up or down slightly (likely due to conflating hard v. soft), but here's an update:

Hard Product:

1a.      EY F on A346 (JFK-AUH)
1b.      SQ R on A380 (HKG-SIN-AKL)    
2.     QF F on A380 (DXB-LHR)
3.     LH F on 744 (JFK-FRA; FRA-JFK)
4.     EK F on A380 (JFK-DXB-SIN)
5.     CX F on 777 (JFK-YVR, JFK-HKG)
6.     OZ F on A380 (ICN-LAX)
7.     JJ F on 777 (GRU-MIA)
8.     LH F on A380 (FRA-JNB)
9.     LH F on 748 (LAX-FRA)
10.   TG F on A380 (BKK-CDG, BKK-HKG)
11.   AA F on 777 (DFW-GRU)
12.   JL F on 777 (CGK-NRT)
13.   LH F on A340 (FRA-BOS)
14.   BA F on 744 (LHR-JFK)
15.   AA F on A321 T (JFK-LAX)
16.   TG F on 747 (old) (SYD-BKK)


Soft Product (limited to 5):
1.   LH F on 744 (FRA-JFK)
2.   SQ R on A380 (HKG-SIN-AKL)
3.   LH F on A380 (FRA-JNB)
4.   CX F on 777 (JFK-YVR)
5.   QF F on A380 (DXB-LHR)

Ground Service (limited to 5):

1.   TG at BKK
2.   LH at FRA
3.   EK at DXB
4.   EY at AUH
5.   SQ at SIN


Top 5 Bucket List (in order):

EY F on A380
GA F on 777
QR F on A380
MU F on 777
KE F on A380

I must admit, I thought I'd get at least a bit of pushback on the rankings here.

Did I nail them to such a degree?  :D
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #989 on: December 17, 2014, 03:35:10 PM »
Fiiiiiine.
There's no way CX hard product can be 6th when they have the most comfortable seat and bed in the sky, bar none.

And there's no way an LH crew can beat an SQ crew except for the fact that they bribed you with Blue Label.  The SQ crew would love to do that as well, but they would either lose their right hand or be shot for doing that.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #990 on: December 17, 2014, 03:59:14 PM »
Fiiiiiine.
There's no way CX hard product can be 6th when they have the most comfortable seat and bed in the sky, bar none.

And there's no way an LH crew can beat an SQ crew except for the fact that they bribed you with Blue Label.  The SQ crew would love to do that as well, but they would either lose their right hand or be shot for doing that.

Finally :)

The reason CX is #6 is not because they don't have an extremely comfortable bed and a super-wide seat. The reason they're #6 is because is because my list ranks the *entire* hard product, including the plane, the refinement of the cabin, the ambiance, the tech, the IFE, the amenities, etc.

Here's a few reasons why it falls to my mind:

A380 >>> 777
Shower > no shower
Doors > no doors
Large TV > small TV
New cabin > old cabin (almost always, anyway)

And you can confirm with Mrs. AJK. We were blown away with the service on that LH flight well before they gave me any alcohol, which was given to us basically on our way out.  Ever had an LH F FA bend down at every-single interaction? Put your slippers on for you? Know when to bother you, know when not to? Assist with bags? Yeah, that was this flight.

If I had that crew on every flight I ever took from this point forward, I'd be a pig in... mud.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #991 on: December 17, 2014, 04:07:30 PM »
Finally :)

The reason CX is #6 is not because they don't have an extremely comfortable bed and a super-wide seat. The reason they're #6 is because is because my list ranks the *entire* hard product, including the plane, the refinement of the cabin, the ambiance, the tech, the IFE, the amenities, etc.

Here's a few reasons why it falls to my mind:

A380 >>> 777
Shower > no shower
Doors > no doors
Large TV > small TV
New cabin > old cabin (almost always, anyway)
All niceties. Bonuses. Perhaps even gimmicks, but granted, fun ones.

But ultimately 2 things matter on a plane for hard product.  How comfy is the seat? How sleepable is the bed?
And nobody can beat CX there.

And you can confirm with Mrs. AJK. We were blown away with the service on that LH flight well before they gave me any alcohol, which was given to us basically on our way out.  Ever had an LH F FA bend down at every-single interaction? Put your slippers on for you? Know when to bother you, know when not to? Assist with bags? Yeah, that was this flight.

If I had that crew on every flight I ever took from this point forward, I'd be a pig in... mud.
Pretty much been that way with every SQ crew I've had. And I've flown SQ in R, J, and Y.
Can't beat SQ crew.  Though granted, they're not handing out Blue Label ;)
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #992 on: December 17, 2014, 04:17:39 PM »
All niceties. Bonuses. Perhaps even gimmicks, but granted, fun ones.

But ultimately 2 things matter on a plane for hard product.  How comfy is the seat? How sleepable is the bed?
And nobody can beat CX there.

Actually, I wouldn't call any of the things I listed gimmicks. Not one.

And ff this were a ranking of only the seat itself, it'd rank hire, yep.

But, it's more than that. And, to me, a factor is excitement. Out of all of them, which I most excited to fly again.

And undoubtedly, the answer to that question puts CX at #6. It's with esteemed company, but #6 nonetheless.

Pretty much been that way with every SQ crew I've had. And I've flown SQ in R, J, and Y.
Can't beat SQ crew.  Though granted, they're not handing out Blue Label ;)

Haven't flown them in Y, and only in R twice, and they're definitely top-shelf. But just like in college basketball, any team can beat any other team on a given day. And LH did just that on that flight.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #993 on: December 17, 2014, 04:28:53 PM »
Obviously a shower on a plane is exciting.  Though I still say it's in the realm of a realm cool gimmick.  One I want to try no doubt, but not the flight I'd pick if I had to commute around the world every week.

To say a shower on a big plane makes for a better hard product than CX, when both the seat and bed pale in comparison, is in interesting take.
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« Reply #994 on: December 17, 2014, 04:35:23 PM »
Again, it's not just the shower.

It's the fact that it's a much larger and quieter plane, it has the shower (which you'll hopefully one day see is NOT a gimmick), it has a larger and better IFE, it has doors, etc etc.

All considered, EK gets the nod... and that's before the fact that I'd sooner fly EK again than CX, all things equal.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #995 on: December 17, 2014, 04:53:59 PM »
The big bathroom is more helpful than the shower. Cx is quite annoying in that aspect.
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« Reply #996 on: December 17, 2014, 04:54:42 PM »
The big bathroom is more helpful than the shower. Cx is quite annoying in that aspect.

Meant to finish my post with that. Doh.

"And just thinking about the tiny bathroom on the CX 777 makes me shudder."
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #997 on: December 17, 2014, 04:58:33 PM »
Bigger on the 747 ;)
Don't know how that row 1 isn't on your list.
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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #998 on: December 17, 2014, 05:00:15 PM »
Bigger on the 747 ;)
Don't know how that row 1 isn't on your list.

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Re: AJK's Trip/Route Planning Thread
« Reply #999 on: December 17, 2014, 05:05:35 PM »
Huh? Then where is it on your list?
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