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Re: another get story..
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 11:41:22 PM »
Only civil courts and messira are allowed to be bargaining chiPS?
As usual in these cases there is likely more than meets the eye. Considering that there are prominent rabbonim on both sides I would say that it is inappropriate for all of you to be speaking so strongly based upon a post article of all things. How more one sided can you get?
From what it seems the Rabanim are related to the family.

I am not going on any side, I just don't believe that anything justifies leaving an lady as an aguna.
I can not comprehend, but have seen a few cases, and its clear that the suffering what the lady goes thru is beyond means.

What is clearly visible is that when there is a fight, people act irrational.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 04:14:34 AM »
NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
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What's even more shocking is that people uninvolved can't comprehend this.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 04:30:05 AM »
Even a man, who thinks he is happily married, and for some reason, his wife wants a divorce, she needs to get it.

Obviously, asking for therapy or a little time to pass is acceptable.

Just refusing, is a no no.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 04:34:26 AM »
I'm in agreement, but w/o know their history and parenting skills, I've gotta say that if I could only see my children twice a week or so, I'd be mighty depressed. Especially if I hadn't done a/t to 'deserve' this.

But again, a get isn't the proper place to fix this issue.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 04:38:59 AM »
I'm in agreement, but w/o know their history and parenting skills, I've gotta say that if I could only see my children twice a week or so, I'd be mighty depressed. Especially if I hadn't done a/t to 'deserve' this.

But again, a get isn't the proper place to fix this issue.

Oh, its always ugly, and people are suffering, however you can't keep someone as a hostage.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 04:39:25 AM »
Oh, its always ugly, and people are suffering, however you can't keep someone as a hostage.
agreed

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 06:58:19 AM »
Why did hashem make it that only the guy can give a get if he has to divorce her the second she asks anyways?

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2013, 07:01:58 AM »
Why did hashem make it that only the guy can give a get if he has to divorce her the second she asks anyways?

no one is talking seconds, minutes, hours or even days, and maybe weeks.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 07:36:30 AM »
Only civil courts and messira are allowed to be bargaining chiPS?
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2013, 07:45:45 AM »
Is the reason a get was not yet given because:

1. He is mean
2. To extort money
3. It is the only way to prevent her from extorting money
4. To gain full custody
5. To have a level of custody
6. To have visitation rights
7. It is the only way he will ever see his child again
8. To go to a bais din sympathetic to him
9. Not to go to one sympathetic to her
10. He will gladly give it but she is refusing to come to an unbiased bais din
11. To prevent her from going to court
12. To get onerous restraining orders lifted
13. So that he will not be arbitrarily jailed
Etc.

It is not always so simple.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2013, 07:48:20 AM »
From what it seems the Rabanim are related to the family.
On both sides.

Either way, they likely know more about the case AND related halacha than anyone here.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2013, 07:51:59 AM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2013, 08:12:16 AM »
All I can say, this guys is lucky he is not married to my daughter.
Wold you use a cattle prod?  :P

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2013, 08:16:06 AM »
All I can say, this guys is lucky he is not married to my daughter.
there are two sides to the story BTW...

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2013, 08:23:11 AM »
All I can say, this guys is lucky he is not married to my daughter.
Your daughter don't need no get