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Re: another get story..
« Reply #180 on: November 22, 2013, 08:26:24 AM »

I haven't read that post yet but that guy (and you?) seems to be heavily biased...

Who's not biased??

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #181 on: November 22, 2013, 09:26:42 AM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #182 on: November 22, 2013, 10:03:08 AM »
I haven't read that post yet but that guy (and you?) seems to be heavily biased...
The post is a guest post, not written by the regular Blogger... 

Biased? or do I see one side make themselves publicly sound like fools via a hired PR firm in a Newspaper/web/FB Anti-Orthodox-Judaism campaign, while the other side sticks to straight halacha?

I wouldn't call that biased, but rather choosing one side over the other... I won't gain anything either way, but I do happen to know both families for several years, and it would be nice to know that they came to a peaceful agreement.

A certain Rosh Yeshiva (who I know has nothing to with this, he didn't even know most of the details) told me: "I don't know who is right or wrong here, but from past experience I know that the Feinsteins where never a name in a Fight, and the Kotlers are notorious for being involved in fights. This is terrible for Klal Yisroel!"
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #183 on: November 23, 2013, 02:14:02 PM »
and it would be nice to know that they came to a peaceful agreement.

A certain Rosh Yeshiva (who I know has nothing to with this, he didn't even know most of the details) told me: "I don't know who is right or wrong here, but from past experience I know that the %#% where never a name in a Fight, and the &$@$ are notorious for being involved in fights. This is terrible for Klal Yisroel!"

FTFY. Point? Trying tp bring peace? Toeles?  :-\ :-[
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #184 on: November 23, 2013, 07:46:40 PM »
The post is a guest post, not written by the regular Blogger... 

Biased? or do I see one side make themselves publicly sound like fools via a hired PR firm in a Newspaper/web/FB Anti-Orthodox-Judaism campaign, while the other side sticks to straight halacha?

I wouldn't call that biased, but rather choosing one side over the other... I won't gain anything either way, but I do happen to know both families for several years, and it would be nice to know that they came to a peaceful agreement.

A certain Rosh Yeshiva (who I know has nothing to with this, he didn't even know most of the details) told me: "I don't know who is right or wrong here, but from past experience I know that the Feinsteins where never a name in a Fight, and the Kotlers are notorious for being involved in fights. This is terrible for Klal Yisroel!"
From what I have heard it isn't the Feinsteins ::) ::) I'll give you a hint... starts with a W
But on a side note: Don't post things you might regret in the future... (think עש"י).

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #185 on: November 23, 2013, 07:49:20 PM »
FTFY. Point? Trying tp bring peace? Toeles?  :-\ :-[
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #186 on: November 23, 2013, 07:50:49 PM »

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #187 on: November 23, 2013, 07:52:48 PM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #188 on: November 23, 2013, 08:07:38 PM »

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #189 on: November 24, 2013, 09:46:15 AM »
I haven't read that post yet but that guy (and you?) seems to be heavily biased...
That blogger wrote Yad Moshe an index to Igros Moshe, which was written by the boy's great grandfather.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #190 on: November 24, 2013, 09:53:46 AM »
That blogger wrote Yad Moshe an index to Igros Moshe, which was written by the boy's great grandfather.
The article/post wasn't written by the blogger...
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #191 on: November 24, 2013, 10:04:27 AM »
I don't care if he's biased or not, all that matters to me- is who can respond to the taynos of the other side? He can respond to the girls side's taynos, but no one has been able to respond to the boys side's taynos.

The blogger allows anyone to comment, and he defends his position in the open. He has sources and reasoning. Anyone that can prove him wrong could and should do so. Though after reading hundreds of comments, I noticed that no one has been able to do so.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #192 on: November 24, 2013, 10:20:21 AM »
I don't care if he's biased or not, all that matters to me- is who can respond to the taynos of the other side? He can respond to the girls side's taynos, but no one has been able to respond to the boys side's taynos.

The blogger allows anyone to comment, and he defends his position in the open. He has sources and reasoning. Anyone that can prove him wrong could and should do so. Though after reading hundreds of comments, I noticed that no one has been able to do so.

I already did.

Lets assume for a second that this rabbi Green***  is completely sold to the boys side, hence he trusts him that all he will decide will be in his favor...?

The guy gave this rabbi this agreement a couple of month ago, what happened?

Do you really think the girl WANTS him not to give a get in order to splash it in the news?

I'm not saying what happened, I'm just trying to think, what might be the case.

PS: giving someone the full authority to decide on ones behalf must enjoy quite some trust....

No one in his right mind would just trust "a" rabbi. 

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #193 on: November 24, 2013, 11:21:38 AM »
it's time to not 'care' who has which grandfather/yichus
and just look at the actual individual people involved.

Fact: They've been separated for years
Fact: She asked for get
Fact: He refused to give the get

Regardless of what else she is 'demanding', he can still give the get,
and they can work out the other family issues in court/BeisDin...

Who cares who is a Feinstein and a Kotler -- it's time for the current individuals to do what the torah says
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #194 on: November 24, 2013, 11:32:12 AM »
it's time to not 'care' who has which grandfather/yichus
and just look at the actual individual people involved.

Fact: They've been separated for years
Fact: She asked for get
Fact: He refused to give the get

Regardless of what else she is 'demanding', he can still give the get,
and they can work out the other family issues in court/BeisDin...

Who cares who is a Feinstein and a Kotler -- it's time for the current individuals to do what the torah says

why dont you enlighten us as to what the torah says?