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Re: another get story..
« Reply #195 on: November 24, 2013, 11:59:09 AM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #196 on: November 24, 2013, 12:14:57 PM »
it's time to not 'care' who has which grandfather/yichus
and just look at the actual individual people involved.

Fact: They've been separated for years
Fact: She asked for get
Fact: He refused to give the get

Regardless of what else she is 'demanding', he can still give the get,
and they can work out the other family issues in court/BeisDin...

Who cares who is a Feinstein and a Kotler -- it's time for the current individuals to do what the torah says
Fact: She bashmutzed him in public without a halachic basis (Source)
Fact: The Torah doesn't require a man to give a Get in his situation
Fact: He never refused her a Get, given that he isn't halachicly obligated and he offered to use an abirtrator
Fact: There was a agreed apon Bais Din hearing date last Monday, but her side backed out hours before...
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #197 on: November 24, 2013, 12:17:37 PM »
Fact: She bashmutzed him in public without a halachic basis (Source)
Fact: The Torah doesn't require a man to give a Get in his situation
Fact: He never refused her a Get, given that he isn't halachicly obligated and he offered to use an abirtrator
Fact: There was a agreed apon Bais Din hearing date last Monday, but her side backed out hours before...

Fact 2  and 3 are not correct, see above.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #198 on: November 24, 2013, 12:52:32 PM »
Fact four is incorrect as well. I recently spoke to someone heavily involved with the girl's side... Let's not get dragged into this.
@yuneeq In SI they have given out booklets refuting many times over the W's story. Did you know that they also approached the media, but they would not buy their story?

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #199 on: November 24, 2013, 01:44:34 PM »

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #200 on: November 24, 2013, 04:10:38 PM »
Fact 2  and 3 are not correct, see above.
Fact 2: A man is not obligated to give a get to his wife if: 1) She doesn't request one via Bais Din (She didn't go to Bais Din for that, only for him going to Arkaos {see BD summons}) 2) She is a Moredes 3) She ran off with his child

Fact 3: He isn't refusing a Get! He is very much willing to give the Get as long as certain conditions are met. Conditions that he is Halachicly entitled to.
Fact four is incorrect as well. I recently spoke to someone heavily involved with the girl's side... Let's not get dragged into this.
@yuneeq In SI they have given out booklets refuting many times over the W's story. Did you know that they also approached the media, but they would not buy their story?
Fact 4: Is one hundred percent correct! I have spoken to several people heavily involved on his side... obviously admitting to such a thing would make her sound very foolish... And R' Reuven Feinstein forbade them from going to the media, so that's extremely inaccurate. Besides, the Media won't understand the whole concept to begin with... But I strongly suggest you read this article carefully.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #201 on: November 24, 2013, 04:58:54 PM »
I can't stop laughing reading the past few pages.
"I heard from a reliable person involved" "I heard from someone very close with his side" I heard from one of her closest relatives" " I read in an article" "this is correct!" "this is incorrect!"

Like we have the slightest idea on what's actually going on.

And based on that, we seriously argue who's right.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #202 on: November 24, 2013, 05:07:58 PM »
Fact 2: A man is not obligated to give a get to his wife if: 1) She doesn't request one via Bais Din (She didn't go to Bais Din for that, only for him going to Arkaos...

ye - and a man is not halachically responsible to give his seat to a pregnant lady either...

C'mon....  When the lady doesn't want me and is no longer living in my home for 24+ months,
I'm obviously no longer married to her -- so of course she should have the get.

Any other "deals and negotiations" can then be even, fair and square.
What's with this this unbalanced advantage/"power tool" over her?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #203 on: November 24, 2013, 05:52:44 PM »
Regardless of what else she is 'demanding', he can still give the get,
and they can work out the other family issues in court/BeisDin...

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #204 on: November 24, 2013, 07:53:07 PM »
Moredes, diminishes the ksuba value. If they have no intention to live again together, he should divorce her.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #205 on: November 24, 2013, 08:28:22 PM »
The shaila is: Who is the rodef and who is the nirdaf?
The answer is that it's a machlokes haposkim.
Since is noone's business anyway, it's best to shut up.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #206 on: November 24, 2013, 09:22:36 PM »
The shaila is: Who is the rodef and who is the nirdaf?
The answer is that it's a machlokes haposkim.
Since is noone's business anyway, it's best to shut up.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #207 on: November 24, 2013, 09:27:42 PM »
I can't stop laughing reading the past few pages.
"I heard from a reliable person involved" "I heard from someone very close with his side" I heard from one of her closest relatives" " I read in an article" "this is correct!" "this is incorrect!"

Like we have the slightest idea on what's actually going on.

And based on that, we seriously argue who's right.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #208 on: November 24, 2013, 09:39:30 PM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #209 on: November 24, 2013, 10:22:17 PM »
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