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Re: another get story..
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 09:24:27 PM »
Sad, as they all are.  Married to a rotten guy and all she's left with is a sheitel and a goofy last name.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 09:49:18 PM »
Pretty sad..
http://nypost.com/2013/11/04/orthodox-jewish-womans-plea-for-a-divorce/
Crazy.

There always is another side to the story, not that I am leaning in any way that this bastard of a guy is right.

What supprises me most is

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t’s been an uphill battle trying to appeal to his family — this almost untouchable, powerful rabbinic family. Many rabbis have called on his grandfather, Rabbi Reuven Feinstein, who heads the Yeshiva of Staten Island, to influence his grandson to give a get, but he staunchly supports Avrohom. Prominent rabbis have even called for the dismissal of his father, Yosaif Asher Weiss, as editor for the major Jewish publisher ArtScroll. Ironically, [Avrohom’s] great-grandfather Moshe Feinstein was a major champion of agunot, and convinced many husbands to give their wives a get in his day. Now Avrohom is one of those insubordinate husbands.

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From - http://www.thejewishweek.com/features/all-she-wrote/case-dueling-dynasties-hits-home

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Also this: He’s not interested in going to a bet din, or rabbinic court, to resolve these matters, and has ignored a siruv (a contempt-of-court ruling issued by a rabbinic court) after failing to heed repeated summonses by Beis Din of Mechon L’Hoyroa, a reputable rabbinic court in Monsey, N.Y.  He continues to ignore the siruv even after several of the most prominent rabbis in the country urged him in writing to go to a rabbinic court.

He should be in חרם how is it that Rabbi Reuven Feinstein is siding with him?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 09:57:10 PM »
Crazy.

There always is another side to the story, not that I am leaning in any way that this bastard of a guy is right.

What supprises me most is

ETA:

From - http://www.thejewishweek.com/features/all-she-wrote/case-dueling-dynasties-hits-home

He should be in חרם how is it that Rabbi Reuven Feinstein is siding with him?
Lets just say that not everyone sees the story the way she is saying it..... There are rabbonim on both sides.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 10:02:50 PM »
Lets just say that not everyone sees the story the way she is saying it..... There are rabbonim on both sides.
That could be true.

I just can't see any justification for a guy leaving a lady as an aguna.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 10:06:52 PM »
That could be true.

I just can't see any justification for a guy leaving a lady as an aguna.
That may be his only bargaining chip
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 10:13:07 PM »
That may be his only bargaining chip
NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 10:15:49 PM »
That may be his only bargaining chip
I would be scared to be your wife.

NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 10:16:18 PM »
Lets just say that not everyone sees the story the way she is saying it..... There are rabbonim on both sides.
I'd love to hear the "other" side, sure I have heard nasty things about both; but enough to justify withholding a get, nothing.
EDIT: I see others beat me to it...

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 10:17:54 PM »
I dont think I have ever used caps on an entire post in my entire time on DDF but that deserves it. I dont know how else to explain it any clearer.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 10:18:16 PM »
NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP!

Why not?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 11:03:26 PM »
NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
Only civil courts and messira are allowed to be bargaining chiPS?
As usual in these cases there is likely more than meets the eye. Considering that there are prominent rabbonim on both sides I would say that it is inappropriate for all of you to be speaking so strongly based upon a post article of all things. How more one sided can you get?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 11:04:15 PM »
Only civil courts and messira are allowed to be bargaining chiPS?
As usual in these cases there is likely more than meets the eye. Considering that there are prominent rabbonim on both sides I would say that it is inappropriate for all of you to be speaking so strongly based upon a post article of all things. How more one sided can you get?
im not speaking abt the article at all

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 11:07:04 PM »
im not speaking abt the article at all


1. Only civil courts and messira are allowed to be bargaining chiPS?

2. As usual in these cases there is likely more than meets the eye. Considering that there are prominent rabbonim on both sides I would say that it is inappropriate for all of you to be speaking so strongly.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 11:08:03 PM »
I heard about one case where all he wanted was 2 sessions of therapy together and her family obnoxciously refused

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 11:41:22 PM »
Only civil courts and messira are allowed to be bargaining chiPS?
As usual in these cases there is likely more than meets the eye. Considering that there are prominent rabbonim on both sides I would say that it is inappropriate for all of you to be speaking so strongly based upon a post article of all things. How more one sided can you get?
From what it seems the Rabanim are related to the family.

I am not going on any side, I just don't believe that anything justifies leaving an lady as an aguna.
I can not comprehend, but have seen a few cases, and its clear that the suffering what the lady goes thru is beyond means.

What is clearly visible is that when there is a fight, people act irrational.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 04:14:34 AM »
NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
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What's even more shocking is that people uninvolved can't comprehend this.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 04:30:05 AM »
Even a man, who thinks he is happily married, and for some reason, his wife wants a divorce, she needs to get it.

Obviously, asking for therapy or a little time to pass is acceptable.

Just refusing, is a no no.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 04:34:26 AM »
I'm in agreement, but w/o know their history and parenting skills, I've gotta say that if I could only see my children twice a week or so, I'd be mighty depressed. Especially if I hadn't done a/t to 'deserve' this.

But again, a get isn't the proper place to fix this issue.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 04:38:59 AM »
I'm in agreement, but w/o know their history and parenting skills, I've gotta say that if I could only see my children twice a week or so, I'd be mighty depressed. Especially if I hadn't done a/t to 'deserve' this.

But again, a get isn't the proper place to fix this issue.

Oh, its always ugly, and people are suffering, however you can't keep someone as a hostage.