Author Topic: another get story..  (Read 40240 times)

Offline how

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 1878
  • Total likes: 62
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2013, 02:16:42 PM »
I know its JS but can we keep ddf out of all this and concentrate on deals......

Offline meshugener

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Feb 2012
  • Posts: 6887
  • Total likes: 62
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: DDF
  • Programs: Amex Platinum, Chase Freedom 10X10 Exclusives, Avis Presidents Club, National Executive, Hertz 5 Star, Hilton Gold, Accor Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Silver, SPG Gold, Club Carlson Gold
Re: another get story..
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2013, 02:24:15 PM »
I know its JS but can we keep ddf out of all this and concentrate on deals......
Read what you like and ignore what you don't.
Leave us alone.
Love me or hate me. I still love you.

Offline ckmk47

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 7961
  • Total likes: 1044
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: brooklyn
Re: another get story..
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2013, 02:29:11 PM »
Reading the past few pages I have yet to see any legitimate reason for him to be refusing a get. He is clearly just trying to torture her and become a tamus nafshy im pelishtim in the process. What's a shame is that although he is crazy, to have his grandfather stand behind it all, makes it even more upsetting.
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2012/07/weiss-family-statement-supporting.html
My favorite cause: cssy.org

Offline SuperFlyer

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 9351
  • Total likes: 414
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2013, 02:32:52 PM »
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2012/07/weiss-family-statement-supporting.html

People say that he signed to accept whatever this rabbi G. decides.

A little voice tells me that there is a decent chance that this G. is completely on his side, and thus useless on negotiations.

Remember it was signed several month ago...

Offline BigDanFan

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 712
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: USA
  • Programs: SPG Biz Platinum, Amex Business Gold, Chase Ink Bold, SW, Delta Gold,etc...
Re: another get story..
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2013, 03:25:18 PM »
Quote from FanofDan above: "Reading the past few pages I have yet to see any legitimate reason for him to be refusing a get. He is clearly just trying to torture her and become a tamus nafshy im pelishtim in the process. What's a shame is that although he is crazy, to have his grandfather stand behind it all, makes it even more upsetting."
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2012/07/weiss-family-statement-supporting.html
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2012/07/weiss-family-statement-supporting.html

Even with all that -- it should all be worked out via the reg system of legal and bais din.
That can all be worked out AFTER the get. It's the same get before or after -- all he's doing is using it as a power tool.  That's not why he has the power and she doesn't.
#DDSCLE,#DDSLA, spg platinum 2016,

Offline Yeki89

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 3845
  • Total likes: 19
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile

Offline Fan of Dan

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 3029
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile

Offline yuneeq

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2013
  • Posts: 8611
  • Total likes: 3999
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 10
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: NJ
Re: another get story..
« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2013, 10:22:47 PM »
@yeki

Those people are sick in the head.
This guy is saying to take a nasty fight between two people and turn it into a campaign against artscroll because they employ some of the relatives.

And the sad thing is that so far 1800 morons agree with him.
Visibly Jewish

Offline Super Speed

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2013
  • Posts: 4849
  • Total likes: 50
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Gold, Hertz Presidents Circle, Avis First, National Executive Elite, Sixt Platinum.
Re: another get story..
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2013, 10:45:24 PM »

I know its JS but can we keep ddf out of all this and concentrate on deals......
Thats why this is called JS and DDF is not just about deals...

Offline Fan of Dan

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 3029
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2013, 11:54:13 PM »
@yeki

Those people are sick in the head.
This guy is saying to take a nasty fight between two people and turn it into a campaign against artscroll because they employ some of the relatives.

And the sad thing is that so far 1800 morons agree with him.
As many gedolei hadar including reb shmuel kamenestky among others said that both the father and son is in niduy it isn't appropriate that they work for a publication that has jewish values. They have gone against what klal yisroel holds sacred and they don't belong there. Even without the fight I am surprised that he still works there.

Offline mow

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 492
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2013, 12:05:59 AM »
Reading the past few pages I have yet to see any legitimate reason for him to be refusing a get. He is clearly just trying to torture her and become a tamus nafshy im pelishtim in the process. What's a shame is that although he is crazy, to have his grandfather stand behind it all, makes it even more upsetting.
sounds like a kotler quote

Offline Truth Hurts

  • Non-Elite Member
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 0
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2013, 12:27:53 AM »
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2013/11/weiss-dodelson-divorce-r-avraham-meir.html

Noticed that the letter posted today by his uncle was not linked to this moshav laitzim yet, so I figured I would do it.

We are not going to solve this argument here, and we are not going to convince each other as to which side is right.

Let's leave it where it is, and quit while we're behind.


Offline SuperFlyer

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 9351
  • Total likes: 414
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2013, 01:50:20 AM »
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2013/11/weiss-dodelson-divorce-r-avraham-meir.html

Noticed that the letter posted today by his uncle was not linked to this moshav laitzim yet, so I figured I would do it.

We are not going to solve this argument here, and we are not going to convince each other as to which side is right.

Let's leave it where it is, and quit while we're behind.

Well, you just became part of the moshav laitzim.

While that might be true, and I'm definitely not a promoter of airing ones laundry on international level (which has become an ugly trend in the frum world), I can say the following:

I've been quite involved in many (wannabe) divorce cases, and unfortunately his behavior is a perfect copy of some other control freaks, who would give up anything just to keep the I'm-in-charge-feeling.

I did read the full support of rabbi G. letter, but since we are talking many month later, it is possible that this G. is one hard negotiator, and she felt like it's her last resort.

Especially in the USA, without money if the other partner is resisting.... add to that rebbishe, or family of rabonim are related to the other side, well, good luck....

Offline shmuelb

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 759
  • Total likes: 9
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Israel
  • Programs: Amex Plat, AAdvantage, Elal Matmid, Southwest, Delta Silver Medallion Skymiles, Hertz #1 Gold 5 Star, National Emerald Club Executive.
Re: another get story..
« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2013, 03:47:12 AM »
I agree that many times it becomes a bechina of tamus nafshi, I have heard that from friends of mine who got divorced. There comes a point when someone is involved in a fight and wants to WIN against the other side, even if it is not good for himself in the long run.

I still think that we should not discuss these issues here. What do we gain from lashon hara etc. which here also involves lashon hara against Rabanim? This is not a "blog" where all is muttar, freedom of speech, zchus hatzibur ladaat, chillul Hashem r"l, like some other "Yeshivish" blogs. Adaraba, DDF has become a forum and platform of Kiddush Hashem and Ohr la'amim, a source of Nachas for the RBSh"O! Let's stay clean.  8)

Do you differ and feel there is a tachlis to have such discussions?
siyag lachachma :-)

Offline HP58

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2013
  • Posts: 1383
  • Total likes: 4
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: another get story..
« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2013, 04:01:31 AM »
I still think that we should not discuss these issues here. What do we gain from lashon hara etc. which here also involves lashon hara against Rabanim? This is not a "blog" where all is muttar, freedom of speech, zchus hatzibur ladaat, chillul Hashem r"l, like some other "Yeshivish" blogs. Adaraba, DDF has become a forum and platform of Kiddush Hashem and Ohr la'amim, a source of Nachas for the RBSh"O! Let's stay clean.  8)
+1 Well said.

Offline SuperFlyer

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 9351
  • Total likes: 414
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2013, 04:32:17 AM »
+1 Well said.

I agree.

But if it's here. I try to stick, if possible to the truth, or at least people should know how it looks in real life.


Offline Jkhein

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 4586
  • Total likes: 17
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2013, 05:03:34 AM »
I agree.

But if it's here. I try to stick, if possible to the truth, or at least people should know how it looks in real life.
you have no idea what the truth is, neither do I.
Let's end the speculations and guesses here.

Offline Yitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 1921
  • Total likes: 38
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #77 on: November 08, 2013, 07:30:24 AM »
I still think that we should not discuss these issues here. What do we gain from lashon hara etc. which here also involves lashon hara against Rabanim? This is not a "blog" where all is muttar, freedom of speech, zchus hatzibur ladaat, chillul Hashem r"l, like some other "Yeshivish" blogs. Adaraba, DDF has become a forum and platform of Kiddush Hashem and Ohr la'amim, a source of Nachas for the RBSh"O! Let's stay clean.  8)

Do you differ and feel there is a tachlis to have such discussions?
+1

Offline meshugener

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Feb 2012
  • Posts: 6887
  • Total likes: 62
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: DDF
  • Programs: Amex Platinum, Chase Freedom 10X10 Exclusives, Avis Presidents Club, National Executive, Hertz 5 Star, Hilton Gold, Accor Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Silver, SPG Gold, Club Carlson Gold
Re: another get story..
« Reply #78 on: November 08, 2013, 08:18:11 AM »
@shmuelb
+1

But to you Mr. TruthHurts: to call DDF a moshav leitzim is unacceptable and will not be tolerated!! okaaaaay??
Love me or hate me. I still love you.

Offline Fan of Dan

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 3029
  • Total likes: 8
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: another get story..
« Reply #79 on: November 08, 2013, 09:30:46 AM »
@shmuelb
+1

But to you Mr. TruthHurts: to call DDF a moshav leitzim is unacceptable and will not be tolerated!! okaaaaay??
+1 if it's a moshav leitzim then he wouldn't be allowed to be part of DDF according to halacha.