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Re: another get story..
« Reply #80 on: November 08, 2013, 09:42:32 AM »
you have no idea what the truth is, neither do I.
Let's end the speculations and guesses here.

So when people accuse, I just clarify why it's not necessarily what one would think.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #81 on: November 08, 2013, 10:22:57 AM »
Mods, any way we can separate the last 10 pages or whenever this conversation started into a dirty divorce/withholding get thread?

The conversation here has had nothing to do with the fbi sting.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #82 on: November 08, 2013, 10:29:35 AM »
Great idea

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #83 on: November 08, 2013, 10:36:41 AM »
Now this thread is embarrassing. I know I should just not read it etc but a thread dedicated to this past nisht imho

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2013, 06:44:30 PM »
Now this thread is embarrassing. I know I should just not read it etc but a thread dedicated to this past nisht imho

This conversation didn't go quiet until it was separated :)
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #85 on: November 09, 2013, 07:43:12 PM »
NO!!! A GET IS NEVER A BARGAINING CHIP! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
If someone's wife unjustifiably wants to get full custody of a man's children, and cut the husband away from his children.
If that man doesn't use his Get as a bargaining chip, he is an idiot. 

I have no clue the facts in this case, but there definitely is a place for using a Get as a bargaining chip. If someone is playing dirty with you, (making up stories to the Judge), sometimes you have to act dirty back.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #86 on: November 09, 2013, 10:52:08 PM »
what does this have to do with kotler?

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #87 on: November 09, 2013, 11:37:28 PM »

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2013, 12:46:02 AM »
If someone's wife unjustifiably wants to get full custody of a man's children, and cut the husband away from his children.
If that man doesn't use his Get as a bargaining chip, he is an idiot. 

I have no clue the facts in this case, but there definitely is a place for using a Get as a bargaining chip. If someone is playing dirty with you, (making up stories to the Judge), sometimes you have to act dirty back.
+1. As I learned on my own....... I totally agree that to hold back a get for $, or just because you still like her etc.... is unacceptable, but when she want's full custody, and whenever you're coming to pick up your child for visitation, the child is having fever...... end she makes sure that you end up with no visitation, yes, that explains what someone up thread asked... why hashem made that just the husband can give a get. 

Also, I have no clue what the facts are here, BUT whenever you discuss this kind of stuff you ALWAYS have to remember, there is HIS story, HER story, and the TRUE story.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2013, 11:34:16 AM »

what does this have to do with kotler?
The girl is a kotler relative.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2013, 01:56:58 PM »
That could be true.

I just can't see any justification for a guy leaving a lady as an aguna.

For the long term you are correct. For the short term, I think all parties would agree that you may want the wife to think things over.

Imagine this scenario: a woman is married to a Kohen. They have a good marriage and several wonderful children. Something happens that puts a strain on the marriage, and she wakes up one morning and decides she wants a Get.

If he gives it to her, he can NEVER remarry her. Don't you think that he should say something like "honey, can we talk this through?" Or "Honey, i'm willing to change whatever it is that you don't like about me, let's go to therapy before making such a harsh decision?"

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2013, 02:44:30 PM »
For the long term you are correct. For the short term, I think all parties would agree that you may want the wife to think things over.

Imagine this scenario: a woman is married to a Kohen. They have a good marriage and several wonderful children. Something happens that puts a strain on the marriage, and she wakes up one morning and decides she wants a Get.

If he gives it to her, he can NEVER remarry her. Don't you think that he should say something like "honey, can we talk this through?" Or "Honey, i'm willing to change whatever it is that you don't like about me, let's go to therapy before making such a harsh decision?"

No one has a problem with a few month. It's past that, where the problem begins.....

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #93 on: November 12, 2013, 12:17:18 AM »
http://www.vosizneias.com/146088/2013/11/10/staten-island-ny-father-in-law-speaks-out-after-agunahs-public-plea-for-get/

that article/statement from the father-in-law would have some value to it
if it were within the first year of divorce request -- however, it's been 3 YEARS --
and the father-in-law is worried about the public!!??!  Three years to work it out privately!
Time for a shift, it seems... clock is ticking for normalacy to resume....
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #94 on: November 12, 2013, 01:47:48 AM »
A over dramatized perfect victim story from your good friend the media where the guy was perfect right up until she marries him, and then the second they get married he starts to gruel and snarl.

Is the story true, it could be. Is it too perfect? definitely .

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #95 on: November 12, 2013, 02:32:44 AM »
The father has resigned from artscroll

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #96 on: November 12, 2013, 02:58:11 AM »
WOW and I thought American divorces were messy.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2013, 02:05:04 PM »
The father has resigned from artscroll
Resigned or forced out?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2013, 02:08:36 PM »
Resigned or forced out?
its possible that they support him but can't afford the bad PR

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #99 on: November 12, 2013, 04:09:43 PM »
its possible that they support him but can't afford the bad PR
Most likely. They are probably still paying him, just want their name out of the picture.
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