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Re: another get story..
« Reply #200 on: November 24, 2013, 04:10:38 PM »
Fact 2  and 3 are not correct, see above.
Fact 2: A man is not obligated to give a get to his wife if: 1) She doesn't request one via Bais Din (She didn't go to Bais Din for that, only for him going to Arkaos {see BD summons}) 2) She is a Moredes 3) She ran off with his child

Fact 3: He isn't refusing a Get! He is very much willing to give the Get as long as certain conditions are met. Conditions that he is Halachicly entitled to.
Fact four is incorrect as well. I recently spoke to someone heavily involved with the girl's side... Let's not get dragged into this.
@yuneeq In SI they have given out booklets refuting many times over the W's story. Did you know that they also approached the media, but they would not buy their story?
Fact 4: Is one hundred percent correct! I have spoken to several people heavily involved on his side... obviously admitting to such a thing would make her sound very foolish... And R' Reuven Feinstein forbade them from going to the media, so that's extremely inaccurate. Besides, the Media won't understand the whole concept to begin with... But I strongly suggest you read this article carefully.
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #201 on: November 24, 2013, 04:58:54 PM »
I can't stop laughing reading the past few pages.
"I heard from a reliable person involved" "I heard from someone very close with his side" I heard from one of her closest relatives" " I read in an article" "this is correct!" "this is incorrect!"

Like we have the slightest idea on what's actually going on.

And based on that, we seriously argue who's right.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #202 on: November 24, 2013, 05:07:58 PM »
Fact 2: A man is not obligated to give a get to his wife if: 1) She doesn't request one via Bais Din (She didn't go to Bais Din for that, only for him going to Arkaos...

ye - and a man is not halachically responsible to give his seat to a pregnant lady either...

C'mon....  When the lady doesn't want me and is no longer living in my home for 24+ months,
I'm obviously no longer married to her -- so of course she should have the get.

Any other "deals and negotiations" can then be even, fair and square.
What's with this this unbalanced advantage/"power tool" over her?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #203 on: November 24, 2013, 05:52:44 PM »
Regardless of what else she is 'demanding', he can still give the get,
and they can work out the other family issues in court/BeisDin...

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #204 on: November 24, 2013, 07:53:07 PM »
Moredes, diminishes the ksuba value. If they have no intention to live again together, he should divorce her.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #205 on: November 24, 2013, 08:28:22 PM »
The shaila is: Who is the rodef and who is the nirdaf?
The answer is that it's a machlokes haposkim.
Since is noone's business anyway, it's best to shut up.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #206 on: November 24, 2013, 09:22:36 PM »
The shaila is: Who is the rodef and who is the nirdaf?
The answer is that it's a machlokes haposkim.
Since is noone's business anyway, it's best to shut up.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #207 on: November 24, 2013, 09:27:42 PM »
I can't stop laughing reading the past few pages.
"I heard from a reliable person involved" "I heard from someone very close with his side" I heard from one of her closest relatives" " I read in an article" "this is correct!" "this is incorrect!"

Like we have the slightest idea on what's actually going on.

And based on that, we seriously argue who's right.

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #208 on: November 24, 2013, 09:39:30 PM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #209 on: November 24, 2013, 10:22:17 PM »
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #210 on: November 25, 2013, 04:00:59 AM »
Moredes, diminishes the ksuba value. If they have no intention to live again together, he should divorce her.

This is what I am not understanding. This lady comes across to me as the biggest piece of $#@%. WHY is everyone saying give a divorce and ONLY then work things out. This lady seems to be uninterested in working things out and hence wants the divorce without working things out.

Is he withholding her divorce or is it HER that is withholding her own divorce?! If she would be a decent human being and have the slightest conscience, she would share custody with her ex. This is also for her own children's sake. Apparently she couldn't even give a damn about her own child. She does this hit piece in the NY Tabloid, which will now follow her child around for the rest of life?!

This lady claims she married the guy even though she wasn't interested! what a jerk! She messed this guys life up for nothing, ran off with his kid and now goes to the tabloids, tries ruining this guys family and more.  Share custody and work things out, dork.

Stop withholding your own divorce and let this poor guy move on with his life!
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #211 on: November 25, 2013, 04:59:41 AM »
ye - and a man is not halachically responsible to give his seat to a pregnant lady either...

C'mon....  When the lady doesn't want me and is no longer living in my home for 24+ months,
I'm obviously no longer married to her -- so of course she should have the get.

Any other "deals and negotiations" can then be even, fair and square.
What's with this this unbalanced advantage/"power tool" over her?
im still waiting for you to tell us what the torah says

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #212 on: November 25, 2013, 07:46:39 AM »
The most ridiculous unintelligent thing in the world is to argue about a divorce.
I would rank it #2. We all know what #1 is.  :P
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #213 on: November 25, 2013, 08:11:26 AM »
I would rank it #2. We all know what #1 is.  :P
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #214 on: November 25, 2013, 08:12:50 AM »
Miles vs. CB
That would be #3.
The "R" word.  :)
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #215 on: November 25, 2013, 08:54:52 AM »
.Share custody and work things out, dork.
The courts have already ruled on everything from custody to child support... It just someone who doesn't want to listen...

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #216 on: November 25, 2013, 09:18:34 AM »
The courts have already ruled on everything from custody to child support... It just someone who doesn't want to listen...
what does the court ruling have to do with halachah?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #217 on: November 25, 2013, 10:35:29 AM »
what does the court ruling have to do with halachah?
Who said it does?

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Re: another get story..
« Reply #218 on: November 25, 2013, 11:49:40 AM »
Who said it does?
Who in this case is not listening to court?
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Re: another get story..
« Reply #219 on: November 25, 2013, 01:21:11 PM »
For those who believed Dodelson when they claimed that they never agreed to Rabbi Greenwald being a Binding Arbitrator...
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