another get story..

[skyguy918]

Guys please, "kol sheino yodeai betiv gittin vekidushin al yehi lo esek imohem"
I highly doubt anyone here has studied Even Haezer aliba dehilchasa. To regurgitate a few gemaras that we remember from 10th grade gittin is nice but totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Ahh... so commenting in a thread on DDF is considered esek imohem, I should have realized that [/sarcasm]

PG and henche are asking a good question, every husband who's withholding a get for custody reasons should give a גט בתנאי מעכשיו, because then the wife will be able to remarry but if she refuses the husband the agreed upon custody/visitation it will invalidate her second marriage. I'm suggesting a reason why that approach is not valid, which would explain why it's not commonly used to resolve these situations.

[churnbabychurn]

Ahh... so commenting in a thread on DDF is considered esek imohem, I should have realized that [/sarcasm]

PG and henche are asking a good question, every husband who's withholding a get for custody reasons should give a גט בתנאי מעכשיו, because then the wife will be able to remarry but if she refuses the husband the agreed upon custody/visitation it will invalidate her second marriage. I'm suggesting a reason why that approach is not valid, which would explain why it's not commonly used to resolve these situations.

Its all good. Just pointing out that the whole discussion is based on a very elementary understanding of even the basics of these extremely complex concepts...kinda silly IMHO.
No disrespect.

[skyguy918]

Its all good. Just pointing out that the whole discussion is based on a very elementary understanding of even the basics of these extremely complex concepts...kinda silly IMHO.
No disrespect.

None taken (not that I deserve any in the first place). Gittin was actually 9th grade for me 

[Ygold]

This is what I am not understanding. This lady comes across to me as the biggest piece of $#@%. WHY is everyone saying give a divorce and ONLY then work things out. This lady seems to be uninterested in working things out and hence wants the divorce without working things out.

Is he withholding her divorce or is it HER that is withholding her own divorce?! If she would be a decent human being and have the slightest conscience, she would share custody with her ex. This is also for her own children's sake. Apparently she couldn't even give a damn about her own child. She does this hit piece in the NY Tabloid, which will now follow her child around for the rest of life?!

This lady claims she married the guy even though she wasn't interested! what a jerk! She messed this guys life up for nothing, ran off with his kid and now goes to the tabloids, tries ruining this guys family and more.  Share custody and work things out, dork.

Stop withholding your own divorce and let this poor guy move on with his life!

Good points.

[SuperFlyer]

Good points.

Good points only if assuming he is a nice father to the kid.

Being of chosheve family means nothing in this context.

[Jkhein]

Good points only if assuming he is a nice father to the kid.

Being of chosheve family means nothing in this context.

he is probably constantly torturing his son, no?

[SuperFlyer]

he is probably constantly torturing his son, no?

I'm not saying he is or he isn't.

Just don't want it to make it as if it's obvious  that one is at fault unconditionally.

I've been involved in way too many stories where both man and woman were illtreating their kids....

[Jkhein]

I'm not saying he is or he isn't.

Just don't want it to make it as if it's obvious  that one is at fault unconditionally.

I've been involved in way too many stories where both man and woman were illtreating their kids....

but it would seem he is not, as from what I understand she has no problem with sharing custody....

[SuperFlyer]

but it would seem he is not, as from what I understand she has no problem with sharing custody....

Do according to you, what does she want.

Nothing, or just for fun isn't an acceptable answer.

[Jkhein]

Do according to you, what does she want.

Nothing, or just for fun isn't an acceptable answer.

being involved in helping out people in divorce situations, I got to learn that it can come to a point where one just becomes "shlecht, or they just want to completely cut off ties and having a child in middle does not cut off completely etc
In this case i have no idea what the real story is, I am not taking sides here.

[SuperFlyer]

being involved in helping out people in divorce situations, I got to learn that it can come to a point where one just becomes "shlecht, or they just want to completely cut off ties and having a child in middle does not cut off completely etc
In this case i have no idea what the real story is, I am not taking sides here.

Right!

An excellent and honest mediator is needed.

B"H I managed to solve several hard cases.

Takes lots and lots of energy

[aygart]

In this case i have no idea what the real story is, I am not taking sides here.

That hasn't stopped the first 270 comments from taking sides.

[SuperFlyer]

That hasn't stopped the first 270 comments from taking sides.

Wrong, I wrote a couple of posts, without taking sides.

Just leveling out to show it's not clear.

[aygart]

Wrong, I wrote a couple of posts, without taking sides.

Just leveling out to show it's not clear.

you wrote 270 comments on this? Wow.

[elikay]

MAZEL TOV!
Get has been given!

[churnbabychurn]

MAZEL TOV!
Get has been given!

So who won?

[BigDanFan]

So who won?

Nobody wins - And in this case, everyone has lost - both
!בגשמיות וברוניות
Huge losses, however one person finally did the right thing today and gave the get.

[efflpetzel]

mazel tov, this is great news,

almost feel like a shidduch

[churnbabychurn]

This is crazy. MT for a get!

Are they making a lechaim?

[Hidden]

Its not crazy to say MT by a get. Its the minhag. They could use good mazel now more than any other time.