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Rome Overview
Rome is a classic European city with several famous sites to visit and plenty of history to explore, while fortunately also having a nice Jewish/Kosher representation to cover your food and Davening needs.

Trip Reports:
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Getting there and getting around:

How long should I go for?
There are 3 main activities in Rome, so having a full 2 days is the minimum for a trip. Some will say that you want more time so you can explore some more of the city or perhaps visit the Tivoli gardens outside of Rome (see "Attractions" below), while others will say 2 days is perfect, and you'll be bored with anything longer. Shabbos can definitely be done in Rome since there are Minyanim and food options, but once you're in Italy, Venice is really the perfect place for Shabbos.

Travelling around Italy/Getting to Rome
Most often, if you're making a trip from USA to Rome, you're not just going to see Rome, but rather a few cities in Italy. When visiting Italy there are a few ways to travel around - trains, rent a car, or if you're going directly from one end of Italy (let's say Rome) to the other end (let's say Milan or Venice), it could be you'll want to fly.

Air:
If Rome is your first stop in Italy, then you'll likely be coming via air. FCO is the airport code. Because people arrive at FCO from many different locations, it's not practical to discuss the different routes you can take to get here. There are a few ways to get from the airport to the city center - shuttle, taxi, train, or bus. When you get out of baggage claim, you will be harassed by drivers offering to shuttle you (in a van, mini-van, or even just a taxi) along with other passengers to the city center for around 20-30 euro per person. It's not a terrible idea, and will be cheaper than a cab unless you can fill a cab's capacity with your family. A cab should cost approximately 50 euro. Leonardo Express trains to the city cost 14 euro each way, run every 30 minutes to Termini train station, and take 30 minutes for the trip. There are a couple of bus companies that offer bus service to Termini for 5-7 euro. You can buy tickets in the airport arrival hall on the right side when leaving customs. The bus can hit traffic, so the train is better bet for a more efficient ride.

Train:
If your Italy trip starts in a different city in Italy, then you may want to look into travelling via rail. There are 2 main train companies in Italy - TrenItalia and Treno Italo. Rates vary on a bunch of factors and neither site is fantastically designed, so check them out and ask for some help here if you need. Termini Train Station is the main station in Rome and is in the heart of the city.

Car Rental:
If your Italy trip starts in a different city in Italy, then besides for taking trains, you may find that a car rental suits your needs better, especially if you plan on hitting up several cities along the way as taking a train usually means having to get a cab or bus to/from each train station from your hotel. That time/cost plus the cost of the trains may cause you to decide on a car rental instead. Since it's Europe, expect a manual car unless you pay more for an automatic. Driving in Italy may bother you if you're not super comfortable driving, but that's really just in regards to the city driving; the highways are just like highway driving back home. Drop off your car at a location in town (as opposed to the airport), will get you to the city center, although will require some street driving, which can be a bit confusing/hectic/etc. if you don't love driving.

Getting around Rome
The main attractions in Rome are all within a 20-40 minute walk of each other, so walking is definitely an option if you're staying in the city center. There are also buses and a metro that you may want to take. The metro is pretty bad in Rome, with very few stops (there happens to be one at the Colosseum, but nothing within a 15 minute walk to the Jewish Ghetto), which makes it not so useful. So, if you're up for walking, it can definitely be done, otherwise a cab or bus would probably be your next best bet. When taking a taxi, it is advisable to catch one from a taxi stand and go by the meter. Non-official taxis are known to rip you off.


Where to stay:

The common points hotels are located pretty close to each other in the center of town near the Spanish Steps. That area is a 30 minute walk to the Jewish Ghetto.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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St. Regis RomeSpanish StepsWebsiteSPG Cat. 6 - 20K/25K, C+P 10K+$180
Westin ExcelsiorSpanish StepsWebsiteSPG Cat. 6 - 20K/25K, C+P 10K+$180
Intercontinental De La Villa RomaSpanish StepsWebsiteIHG Cat. 9 - 50K
Sheraton RomaBetween FCO and Rome properWebsiteSPG Cat. 2 - 3K, C+P 2K+$35 | For someone stingy on points, this hotel might work well. It has a paid shuttle to the airport, as well as a paid shuttle to the city center. It is far from the sites of Rome, so cabs will be expensive. A 15 minute walk to the nearest metro can get you to town, but as said above, the metro isn't great in Rome.
Sheraton Golf Parco de MediciNear FCOWebsiteSPG Cat. 3 - 7K, C+P 3.5K+$55 | Nice option if you just need to be near the airport for the night as there is an airport shuttle, although it's not complimentary.


What to do:

Attractions & Activities
Tours are very popular in Rome, particularly using one of the Jewish companies - Rome for Jews or Jewish Roma, which are described in more detail below. Whichever company you choose, the guide you get can make or break it. It takes persistence to find out who will be guiding a tour on a specific day, but here are guides that people specifically liked:

Rome for Jews
Jewish Ghetto - David (Dan)
Vatican - David (Dan)

Jewish Roma
Jewish Ghetto - Sara (@Yehuda), Yael (ckmk47)

NameMore InfoComments
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Tour of Jewish GhettoRFJ, JRThe Ghetto will be the center of your trip (because of food/Minyan and because of its actual location), so you'll get to know it well just by visiting. However, almost everyone who has taken a tour of the Ghetto has said it was the highlight of their trip. There are 2 main tour guides for the Ghetto (they also offer tours of other sites in Rome), Rome For Jews and Jewish Roma. The reviews - DDF and elsewhere - of both are outstanding. Everyone who has taken either tour has raved about it. No one on DDF has taken both, though, so there are no reports comparing the two (although you will find much discussion and debate as to which one is better that ends with neither program on top). The tour will bring you back in history and really help you understand how this small street is not just a street with restaurants, but once was closed in and housed thousands of Jews. The unbelievably gorgeous Great Synagogue of Rome is the center of the Ghetto - it can only be entered during Minyanim or with a tour guide. The museum/archive in the basement can be entered by anyone during hours, but the tours will take you there (and the entrance fee won't be included in your tour cost). The main issue with the tours is that they are extremely expensive, running about 100 euro per person (both are similarly priced and are usually in small groups). However, Jewish Roma does offer a student rate of 50 euro if others - paying full price ;) - have already started a tour for your day. The money is well worth it, but for those trying to save money, there is a free Rick Steves' audio tour of the Ghetto that people have said is good.
Colosseum,              Roman ForumsWebsiteThis area is known as Old Rome. Viewing these sites can be done on your own or with a tour. The same ticket grants entrance to both sites. You can walk into the Colosseum, and with a general knowledge of what went on there, get a good feel for the place. However, a tour could be nice. Several DDFers have taken tours with companies like City Wonders, but have felt that the guides were boring and the tours too long and not too good. The free Rick Steves' audio tour is very good and might be your best bet. However, the biggest concern at the Colosseum is the line to get in, which can be 1-2 hours long, but tour groups get to skip the line, which is the biggest upside to taking a tour. Another way to skip the line is by purchasing tickets in advance  and getting on the normally short line for renting an audio guide. By renting the audio guide, you are able to skip the entrance line. Once inside, they say it's better to use Rick Steves rather than the Colosseum's audio guide you just rented. Another option to get in faster is to cross the street to the entrance of the Roman Forums where the line for tickets is usually much shorter - again, that tickets works for both sites. The Roman Forums, just across the street from the Colosseum, is an open area that houses many ruins from different Roman structure. If you're into Roman history, you'll enjoy this part, otherwise you might find it to be dull except for the main attraction within the Forums - the Arch of Titus. There are a few entrances to the Forums, so if you just want to see Titus, try to find the entrance near the Colosseum that leads right to it.
VaticanWebsiteIf you're into art/history, the Vatican museums will be unbelievable. DDFers have varying opinions about their experience in the museum. Some loved it (with and without tours/audio guides), others found it super boring. (Could that be because they didn't take a tour?) You will also want to AYLOR about going into the Sistine Chapel, which is the last room you'll get to if you follow the museum path (somehow the @Yehudas completely missed it). To avoid entering the chapel, you can either ask the guard standing there if you can go through exit that's there (explain religious reasons, etc.) or go back through the whole museum. The lines here can be just as long as the Colossuem or they could be non-existent. Buying tickets online beforehand/going with a group should help with that.
Trevi Fountain, Pantheon,        Spanish StepsTourYou can simply walk up to these sites and check them out or you can take the New Rome Walking Tour which is a daily, free walking tour that covers these sites among others and lasts for about 2.5 hours. AYLOR about the Pantheon (as it's a church as well as a potential issue for Kohanim), although even if you don't go in, just seeing the building is worth stopping by.
Capitoline MuseumWebsiteLocated in the Forum area.  A series of buildings with lots of art, statues, etc.  You can rent an audio tour that's well worth it.
Outside Of RomeImages
Villa D'este, TivoliWebsiteIf you're willing to drive outside of Rome for about an hour (doesn't add too much time to a trip heading towards Florence/Pisa), you might want to stop in Tivoli to see this. It's an old estate that has a quick house to walk through (not too exciting) and then an absolutely stunning fountain garden in the back. You'll see tons of fountains, each designed differently, along with a great view of the countryside.
Cinque TerreWebsiteFive villages: Monterosso al Mare, Vernazza, Corniglia, Manarola, and Riomaggiore. The coastline, the five villages, and the surrounding hillsides are all part of the Cinque Terre.
Portofino (Harbor)Website Italian fishing village and holiday resort famous for its picturesque harbour and historical association with celebrity and artistic visitors.
FlorenceWebsite The capital city of the Italian region of Tuscany and of the Metropolitan City of Florence.


Shuls:

NameMore InfoComments
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Great Synagogue of RomeWebsiteShacharis at 7:45AM, Mincha/Maariv before/after Shkia, Nusach Italki.
Oratorio di CastroN/ACesare Balbo 33, 17 minute walk from the Westin, Eidut Mizrach
ChabadWebsite, WebsiteIt seems like there are 2 websites for Chabad, with the first having some dead links, but otherwise good Jewish info, while the second seems to be the current, live site. Shabbos meals can be arranged at Chabad.


Food:

Basically all of the Kosher restaurants are on the 1 block strip of the Ghetto, aside for Yotvata, which is about 2 blocks away. All the restaurants listed below are under the Beis Din of Rome. Yehoshua and @Yehuda were told by their LORs to contact Rabbi Eidlitz from KosherQuest.org to find out more information about Kashrus in Rome. He suggested to both of them to call and rely on a Rabbi in Milan. The Rabbi there said that one should only eat in the dairy places in Rome. From the thread, you'll learn that people found out that the Jews of Italy don't require Glatt meat, which is why eating at the meat restaurants is more of a sketchy issue, although some places do offer Glatt as an option (if that works for you).

NameMore InfoComments
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BA"Ghetto MilkyWebsiteAh, BA"Ghetto. The best place to eat in Rome (if you're only eating dairy). The pasta here is homemade and other-worldly. You must, must eat here. Ok, hope that was clear enough. Try one thing, try 'em all! You can also get a famous, tasty Roman/Jewish artichoke here, although not everyone thinks it's as good as they say. You can eat outside on the street under umbrellas, and ah! it's just a fantastic experience. There is also a BA"Ghetto Meaty down the block, but that faces the Glatt issue raised above. BA"Ghetto is right near the Great Synagogue, so it's kinda in the middle of the strip of Kosher restaurants (just for a reference point).
YotvataWebsite2 blocks away from the Ghetto, Yotvata is a very nice dairy place that's often compared to BA"Ghetto. Generally, the prices are slightly cheaper here. Most agree that although the food does taste good here, BA"Ghetto is just better.
Little TripoliWebsiteLocated in the Piazza Bologna area. This is a Mediterranean cuisine restaurant which is under the hashgacha of the local chabad and is Glatt Kosher.
GelatoN/AA little ice cream shop a few stores down from BA"Ghetto Milky that serves great tasting and cheap ice cream. Depending on your schedule, you might find yourself at 2-3 o'clock without having yet eaten lunch and might be able to pull off some ice cream/milkshake as a cheap lunch meal to save some money and hold you off until dinner.
BakeryN/AOffically known as Pasticceria Boccione and Il Forno de Ghetto, you can find this Kosher bakery on a corner in the Ghetto adjacent to the Gelato store. The store is extremely tiny, with very few baked goods on display (especially stuff that you'll recognize), but you may find some donuts and croissants that are tasty.
Kosher Delight GroceryN/ADown the block from BA"Ghetto Milky, this grocery is very small, but does have a few packaged goods from Israel that could help you put together some food for the road. You can also buy fancy cheeses at low prices that you can't get close to in America.
Flour Farina E CucinaN/AIf you have 1st hand experience please comment/update Flour is a very cool Dairy restaurant: Important note: All the cooked and baked goods are cholov Yisroel BUT the milk used for the coffee has a default option of cholov stam and you need to request cholov yisroel for the coffee/drinks - According to 2 people I spoke to at Flour (04/15/18) Located outside the ghetto - Address is: Via Cremona, 29-37, 00161 Roma RM, Italy.
Open from 7am but ala carte options typically only available during specific hours.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2060 on: July 16, 2017, 08:47:50 PM »
And specific place we should go to in the Vatican?
Wouldn't be able to tell you that, since we took a tour, and had the guide whizz us from one place to the next

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2061 on: July 16, 2017, 09:03:43 PM »
I think that the Vatican without a tour will be nothing more than a ton of art and you will not be able to make heads or tails of it. I would not suggest doing it at all if you can't have a proper guide to focus on the items that would be interesting to you. The ancient city is probably doable without a guide but I really would suggest using one - or at least Rick Steve if he has one for that area.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2062 on: July 16, 2017, 09:11:56 PM »
OK, ok. Killing the segway.

But y'all better be right about all these tours. I've never been on a paid tour before and now I'm going to splurge for 3!
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2063 on: July 16, 2017, 09:19:56 PM »
Here's the problem -  I went into the tours expecting them not to be great and found them to be very good. You're going in with such high expectations after hearing us rave, how could you not end up being disappointed?  :)
If you work with David Walden of Rome for Jews you shouldn't go wrong.
We actually never did the ghetto with a tour - so I don't know what we missed but I really couldn't say that I picked up much more than lots of good food on Octavius St and a gorgeous shul ...

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2064 on: July 16, 2017, 09:21:27 PM »
Thoughts?

Day 1:
Arrive 8:10AM
Taxi to S Regis Rome, arrive 9:30am
Taxi 10am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Walk to Market area at Campo de Fiori (6am-2pm hours) and Flumi Fountain
Depart 1230pm to Baghetto Milky for lunch (12pm-3pm, 6pm-11pm hours)
RFJ Jewish Ghetto tour at 2:30-5:30pm
Cremeria Romana Gelato (8am-11pm hours)
Taxi or walk to Trevi Fountain/Spanish Steps/Via Condotti
Taxi to Little Tripoli for dinner (730pm-11pm)

Day 2:
Depart 8:30am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Depart 9am to Ancient City
JR Ancient City tour 9:30am-12:30pm
Depart 12:30pm to Yotvata
Depart 2pm to Vatican City
RFJ Vatican tour at 2:30-5:30pm
Taxi to Baghetto Milky or Bellacarne dinner
(8:30pm massage to remove the blisters from our feet? ;D )

Day 3:
Taxi 9am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Taxi 10am to FCO for 12:40pm flight.
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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2065 on: July 16, 2017, 09:29:18 PM »
If you can, I'd suggest wearing good walking shoes :) and walking from the gelato to the Trevi Fountain etc.  You can pass the Pantheon which is incredible to see and fathom that it was built so long ago (not sure if you'll cover it in the Colosseum tour  - we didn't) and get a flavour of Rome people - fountains - shops - squares etc.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2066 on: July 16, 2017, 09:49:15 PM »
I've never been on a paid tour before and now I'm going to splurge for 3!
JR Ancient City tour 9:30am-12:30pm
Why 'splurge' on JR for the ancient city tour. We used WOI and were very satisfied, and we only paid $115 for the two of us

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2067 on: July 16, 2017, 09:49:48 PM »

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2068 on: July 16, 2017, 10:11:40 PM »
Regarding the Sistine Chapel - before we went I did much research on the subject and found the following.  Of course, I am some random guy on the internet and you should ask your own LOR but this may be a start.  I discussed this with two local Rabbonim in the Flatbush/Midwood area.  Although I will not name them, for what it's worth, they are both well respected and well known.  1 is affiliated with and came from Torah Vodas and one is the Rosh Kollel of a fairly right wing place.

Essentially, the halachah I was told was that if either the kedusha (l'havdil) that they say is in a church has been removed by ceremony or if a church is functionally not used as an active church anymore it is not a problem to go in.  In case of the Sistine Chapel, the "kedusha" was never removed.  For many years, it's primary religious function is used to elect a new pope, not to hold services.  Further, until the current pope, the only time it was used for services for the last 40 + years was during the period that they elected the new pope.  However, under the current pope, the Vatican has permitted private groups to rent out the Sistine Chapel to conduct private services.  It also seems that the current pope has used the Sistine Chapel a little more than others to perform ceremonies.  But, it is still not used for consistent services.  It is this last point where I found the machlokes, whether the sporadic rental or use returned it to the status of active Church, or whether it was no different than 10 guys getting together for a minyan (which gives a temporary kedusha to the area that goes away after the minyan).  Additionally, another wrinkle was there were rabbonim that held that since the "tour" went through the Sistine Chapel and people passed through it, during the times that it is opened to the public, the area takes on the din (status) of a kapandria (shortcut) and even if the sporadic use returned the chapel to active church some of the time, during the time when it had the din of a kapandria, it was permitted to go in.  The good news is that you can still do the rest of the tour with RFJ and just go around the side route to avoid this issue if you are concerned as there is no other place RFJ takes you that is controversial. 
Again, I am some random internet dude.  Please ask your own LOR what he thinks is proper

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2069 on: July 16, 2017, 10:22:23 PM »
Very well stated. Thank you for taking the time to spell out the issues.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2070 on: July 16, 2017, 11:22:16 PM »
Thoughts?

Day 1:
Arrive 8:10AM
Taxi to S Regis Rome, arrive 9:30am
Taxi 10am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Walk to Market area at Campo de Fiori (6am-2pm hours) and Flumi Fountain
Depart 1230pm to Baghetto Milky for lunch (12pm-3pm, 6pm-11pm hours)
RFJ Jewish Ghetto tour at 2:30-5:30pm
Cremeria Romana Gelato (8am-11pm hours)
Taxi or walk to Trevi Fountain/Spanish Steps/Via Condotti
Taxi to Little Tripoli for dinner (730pm-11pm)

Day 2:
Depart 8:30am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Depart 9am to Ancient City
JR Ancient City tour 9:30am-12:30pm
Depart 12:30pm to Yotvata
Depart 2pm to Vatican City
RFJ Vatican tour at 2:30-5:30pm
Taxi to Baghetto Milky or Bellacarne dinner
(8:30pm massage to remove the blisters from our feet? ;D )

Day 3:
Taxi 9am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Taxi 10am to FCO for 12:40pm flight.
Looks good to me! The thing with Rome is that most of this stuff is within walking distance, and most of the Jewish stuff requires a tour like you booked. If you're not interested in doing all of the Roman fountains and statues, your itinerary looks pretty good. It is packing in a lot, but we did the same we were in Rome and did not regret it.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2071 on: July 17, 2017, 09:44:00 AM »
I think doing a Jewish tour of the forum/colloseum area is overkill. You will have heard the full gamut of Roman history on the ghetto tour. There is nothing inherently Jewish about the Forum area aside for the Arch of Titus which any tour will mention, and the fact that that the Colloseum was built by Jewish slaves which will also be mentioned. I recommend just going to TA and picking one with good reviews.

I would also recommend an evening tour which encompasses the Trevi Fountain, Spanish Steps, Pantheon (although you shouldnt enter as they too hold religious services) etc. Its cheap, you dont have to figure out where to go, and you can hear a history of the places
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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2072 on: July 17, 2017, 10:58:32 AM »
I think doing a Jewish tour of the forum/colloseum area is overkill. You will have heard the full gamut of Roman history on the ghetto tour. There is nothing inherently Jewish about the Forum area aside for the Arch of Titus which any tour will mention, and the fact that that the Colloseum was built by Jewish slaves which will also be mentioned. I recommend just going to TA and picking one with good reviews.

I would also recommend an evening tour which encompasses the Trevi Fountain, Spanish Steps, Pantheon (although you shouldnt enter as they too hold religious services) etc. Its cheap, you dont have to figure out where to go, and you can hear a history of the places
+1, all good points. Though to be fair, the Colosseum & Forum tour was our least favorite tour compared to JR of the ghetto.  True, they did mention the Jewish slaves building the Colosseum, but when they got to the Arch of Titus they totally messed up the history. The fact that my wife had to school the tour guide on what exactly happened was an embarrassment for the guide and the tour company (though we didn't care enough to report it or make a bigger deal out of it).

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2073 on: July 17, 2017, 11:30:29 AM »
I think doing a Jewish tour of the forum/colloseum area is overkill. You will have heard the full gamut of Roman history on the ghetto tour. There is nothing inherently Jewish about the Forum area aside for the Arch of Titus which any tour will mention, and the fact that that the Colloseum was built by Jewish slaves which will also be mentioned. I recommend just going to TA and picking one with good reviews.

I would also recommend an evening tour which encompasses the Trevi Fountain, Spanish Steps, Pantheon (although you shouldnt enter as they too hold religious services) etc. Its cheap, you dont have to figure out where to go, and you can hear a history of the places
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The Forum area has some other jewish related ruins, such as the cell where some of the 10 Harugei Malchus were kept and more.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2074 on: July 17, 2017, 11:38:33 AM »
Thoughts?

Day 1:
Arrive 8:10AM
Taxi to S Regis Rome, arrive 9:30am
Taxi 10am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Walk to Market area at Campo de Fiori (6am-2pm hours) and Flumi Fountain
Depart 1230pm to Baghetto Milky for lunch (12pm-3pm, 6pm-11pm hours)
RFJ Jewish Ghetto tour at 2:30-5:30pm
Cremeria Romana Gelato (8am-11pm hours)
Taxi or walk to Trevi Fountain/Spanish Steps/Via Condotti
Taxi to Little Tripoli for dinner (730pm-11pm)

Day 2:
Depart 8:30am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Depart 9am to Ancient City
JR Ancient City tour 9:30am-12:30pm
Depart 12:30pm to Yotvata
Depart 2pm to Vatican City
RFJ Vatican tour at 2:30-5:30pm    Segway Tour or just riding around. *
Taxi to Baghetto Milky or Bellacarne dinner
(8:30pm massage to remove the blisters from our feet? ;D )

Day 3:
Taxi 9am to Flour bakery for breakfast
Taxi 10am to FCO for 12:40pm flight.
FTFY
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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2075 on: July 17, 2017, 11:47:53 AM »
I think hotel car airport transfer is under 100 Euro, could be worth it to avoid taxi hassle and on the way back (either have them drive you and wait at breakfast or bring your bags and pick you up from breakfast)
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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2076 on: July 17, 2017, 11:53:38 AM »
I think hotel car airport transfer is under 100 Euro, could be worth it to avoid taxi hassle and on the way back (either have them drive you and wait at breakfast or bring your bags and pick you up from breakfast)
We actually found that Uber was €50 flat-rate from the airport (€5 more than a taxi), so that could also be a good idea on the way back.

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Re: Rome Master Thread
« Reply #2077 on: July 17, 2017, 12:58:45 PM »
Just finished JewsForRome tour. Had David as our guide. He was spectacular. Completely thorough, patient, and sensitive (we had some non frum with us). He was funny, well rehearsed, and enthusiastic. I wish we had him yesterday in Prague (our guide was awful - but that's for a different time). After this tour i wanted to do the Vatican tour tomorrow with him (and someof today's group) but that has to be booked way in advance for enterence to the Vatican. And hes doing tomorrow afternoon, when we will be leaving Rome around noon time. All I can say is while booking, ask for David. He wont disappoint. Best 250 euro (for a couple) spent so far.

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« Reply #2078 on: July 17, 2017, 02:09:41 PM »
That's a great tour with David. Did it include the Great Synagogue and the Jewish Museum?
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« Reply #2079 on: July 17, 2017, 02:14:22 PM »
FTFY
*I don't know if your up for it but the most incredible thing I did was rent a Vespa and rode around Rome to go from Fountain to Fountain.
yes, I was also thinking that a scooter (for 2?) would be a fun addition in Rome. Definitely no place to park a full-size car in most areas. The St. Regis is close. Ditto on the good walking shoes/sneakers. Almost all of the walking is on large uneven, hard-stone walkways. Pantheon is a good place to walk to, as well -- even for a quick peek inside.
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