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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2013, 07:13:05 PM »
Judaism, the religion, is what makes a Jew Jewish. Not the country they are from or anything else.
Then this nutcase is a Jew but not Jewish?
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2013, 07:13:56 PM »
Who cares
It fascinates many people, including myself. Interesting enough my mom told me this years ago apparently my mom's Libian friend told her that Gaddafi's mom went to a Jewish school together with her mom.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2013, 07:14:17 PM »
Then this nutcase is a Jew but not Jewish?
It's the same thing.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2013, 07:20:18 PM »
Then this nutcase is a Jew but not Jewish?
Incorrect, sorry if I was unclear. Every Jew is Jewish. Everyone who is Jewish is a Jew. Just like everyone who is Polsih is a Pole and every Pole is Polish.
Judaism is a religion that if you are born into it (or convert to it), you can never become "not Jewish". You can only decide  to not behave in accordance with the religion. Hence the millions of non-observant Jews in the world. They are Jews but either are ignorant as to what Judaism entails (this is the case for the vast majority of non-observant Jews), or they actively decide not to follow the religion. But they are still Jews.
So if Gadaffi was Jewish, that means he and I share common Jewish ancestors and are both charged with keeping the Torah. 
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2013, 07:22:20 PM »
Then this nutcase is a Jew but not Jewish?
some people are only jew-ish
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2013, 07:27:07 PM »
Incorrect, sorry if I was unclear. Every Jew is Jewish. Everyone who is Jewish is a Jew.
Judaism is a religion that if you are born into it, you can never become "not Jewish". You can only decide  to not behave in accordance with the religion. Hence the millions of non-observant Jews in the world. They are Jews but either are ignorant as to what Judaism entails (this is the case for the vast majority of non-observant Jews), or they actively decide not to follow the religion. But they are still Jews.
So if Gadaffi was Jewish, that means he and I share common Jewish ancestors and are both charged with keeping the Torah.
OK, now I understand but disagree with being born into a religion. Not looking to argue just have a different perspective. Thanks for making it clear.
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2013, 07:33:48 PM »
OK, now I understand but disagree with being born into a religion. Not looking to argue just have a different perspective. Thanks for making it clear.
There's nothing to disagree as it's not yours or my opinion. According to Judaism if your mom is Jewish you're Jewish.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2013, 07:35:57 PM »
There's nothing to disagree as it's not yours or my opinion. According to Judaism if your mom is Jewish you're Jewish.
CV is clearly saying he disagrees with that concept, so in other words he disagrees with Judaism. End of discussion. Please let's not get into a major philosophical debate here.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2013, 07:46:57 PM »
Please let's not get into a major philosophical debate here.
Agree because then you would have to explain if Adam and Eve were Jewish.  :)
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2013, 07:48:55 PM »
Agree because then you would have to explain if Adam and Eve were Jewish.  :)
Don't get us started, it's not even so clear how Jewish Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were... :P

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2013, 07:51:14 PM »
Agree because then you would have to explain if Adam and Eve were Jewish.  :)
Pretty simple... they weren't.

Don't get us started, it's not even so clear how Jewish Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were... :P
But Adam and Eve were clearly not.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2013, 07:56:20 PM »
Pretty simple... they weren't.
But Adam and Eve were clearly not.
definitely not simple. But I agree.:)

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2013, 07:57:44 PM »
definitely not simple. But I agree.:)
So they were Catholic?  :P
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2013, 07:59:44 PM »
So they were Catholic?  :P
Exactly ;D we're getting somewhere.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2013, 08:00:18 PM »
So they were Catholic?  :P
Exactly ;D we're getting somewhere.
And the serpent was...?

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
Exactly ;D we're getting somewhere.
Now we finally have something in common.  :)
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2013, 08:03:08 PM »
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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2013, 08:10:50 PM »
Muslim?
If the serpent was the Muslim, A&E were the catholics, the apple must have been the Jews.:P

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2013, 08:24:31 PM »
Me: Was the Libyan Jewish community so tight-knit that you'd know anyone if they're Jewish or not?
Him: Sure, we were  a very small community.  The whole Libyan Jewish community totalled 35,000.
Me: At it's height/peak?
Him: Yes, before '48.
There you have it.  That's enough proof for me.  This man is not senile ch"v; he's a distinguished physician.
Huh? 35,000 people is a lot of people!! In a city of 35,000 jews while it's possible that they knew his mom it's not obvious that since it's such a 'small tight-knit' community everyone must know each other.

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Re: Gaddafi is Jewish
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2013, 09:57:15 PM »
Huh? 35,000 people is a lot of people!! In a city of 35,000 jews while it's possible that they knew his mom it's not obvious that since it's such a 'small tight-knit' community everyone must know each other.
נוּ, אַ קשיא אויף אַ מעשׂה.  פּון אַ קשיא שטאַרבט מען נישט.

I'd assume 35k encompassed several cities. But then again, see above.